yeah they are awful

i started a thread about how 'TWEET RICK SANTORUM' was like the most ******ed political action strategy of all time and got the legislation forum irate a while back

these clowns are worse than worthless

Honest question since I only played on PS and got my money a long time ago: Has the PPA ever done anything?

I don't get where their supposed authority (or even reason for existing) comes from really.

Sounds like a pretty awesome thread, did it get deleted?

i dont remember honestly, and it might not have been its own thread

ill go look for it

i dunno, not really sure how this is the ppa's fault.

Can we hire the weed lobbyists?

It's clearly not their fault, it's just lol how they puff themselves up as this advocate and then come back from their big meeting with absolutely nothing that we didn't already know. It's gonna be a while, you don't say? Never could have figured that out after the DOJ went into radio silence for three months and counting after initially giving a timeframe of weeks

Here's our PPA representative expressing something other than "well, duh" when RICK SANTORUM came out against online poker

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/57...poker-1161053/


Another interaction:

Me:

PPA SUPERSTAR

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...4&postcount=29

of course it's not their fault but that doesn't matter at all. they're benign and ****ing useless, they've achieved absolutely the **** nothing over 6 years. they're going to change the world with a handful of facebook likes and retweets? there's no direction at all, the resources they get are basically pissed away, they carry no weight with the people that matter, have no say in ****ing anything and yet this is the only group supposedly poker players have to represent their needs. they're barry zuckercorn without the comic relief

Gotta be honest, I did look up the difference between baba ghanoush and hummus just to make sure after that gay guys marry your girlfriend video.

Good thing the 2012 Republican platform didn't advocate a ban on online gaming

the PPA's mission statement. i read this and laugh every single time

my favorite is how the response is usually "well if you think it's so easy YOU do it!" you don't get points for trying, *******s, ESPECIALLY when you're asking people for money and have no ****ing viable direction once you get that money. the PPA is a net loss for poker players. it's a money pit we're stuck with because they've been around for 6 years doing the same bunch of nothing but it's too late to scrap them and start over with something new

poker players aren't really very good at getting together in groups on anything. i remember when UIGEA was being sent through the backdoor the poker legislation forum (if it even existed which tbh i don't remember) was largely made up of non-pros and nate silver. and UIGEA ultimately had a large impact on people's finances.

EDIT: i think a lot of poker pros made calls about UIGEA, etc., but the PPA is just not their scene at all.

A year ago I would have said Golf Forum #2 but that was before the great ntnBO wars of 2012. Haven't ventured there in awhile which makes me pretty sad

that ****ing tool ruined the entire forum. by himself.

So what exactly is the legal impediment to online poker at this point in states where poker is legal? DOJ has said they won't enforce the Wire Act with regards to poker, and the UIGEA only applies where poker is illegal in a particular state, right?

i guess i'm not so much angry that the PPA is ineffective. it's hard to imagine that a lobbyist group for online poker players could actually make an impact, so i hardly begrudge them on that front. it's that THEY don't realize how ineffective they are. or they do and are just throwing away so much of their (donated) resources at a losing battle for no reason at all. PPA will not succeed in making any legislative impact. not now, not ever. they're simply outmanned and won't ever have the funding required to have any say, especially compared to the opposition. if online poker ever passes it'll be a product of the wishes of higher powers that be (harrahs, mgm, tribes, etc). it's just the way they present themselves as the last champion for ipoker legislation that drives me ****ing insane.

so why keep this up? just to say you're doing it? a mobilization of (at best) tens of thousands of people all over the world to get legislation passed is going to do absolutely nothing. why not change the direction of the organization to focus strictly on smaller matters where they CAN make an impact?

Nothing, nevada is rolling out stuff now. just taking time.

If it were up to me they'd focus on (1) getting favorable decisions by judges in poker cases; and (2) getting referendums on the ballot in states where there's a chance to win.

Since all it takes is one senator to put a hold on any favorable poker legislation, I don't believe we're going to get a pro-poker bill anytime soon.

Don't forget to vote Dean Heller tho!

Student Life used to be OK

so the government is just going to earn interest on 200 million per month for as long as they see fit then when they decide they want to give the money back to players, it almost certainly won't be at 100% value and that'll be taxed as well (not to say anyone really should have expected anything different when the DoJ decided to take it upon themselves to repay american players rather than let stars do it themselves)

what a racket!

god bless america

as far as LC threads go OOTs is the nut low.

This gets a special LOL Gubment.

It would be great if the Senate would, just once, make a minority member actually filibuster when they threaten to.