i often say extra time, because its shorter to say than injury time.

although even more often i say, "4 minutes, **** off, rigged imo"

and the skysports show on a saturday morning, "Soccer AM"

are we seriously argueing about extra time/injury time and the word soccer? Have I somehow found my way into the kindergarden forum?

but he started it sir

Yes. Its called the Warrington Follies.

Did anyone see todays Old Firm, cracking game with a happy ending

I thought every SPL game was a big jerkoff.

variance : had my first ever pitch invasion at brentford yesterday.

Was the last home game of the season so they kept warning evry1 that they would nick you if u went on. all the filth were covering the home stands but they completely forgot the hereford fans down the other end who had just got promoted and going mental so they started goin on the pitch. the police ****ed off down the other end so we all joined in too!

was the most mad 2 minutes of my life, dodging coppers and running round with my mate not knowing where to go.

Quality.

yeah sounds like a great day Ledders. You cant beat a good pitch invasion.

Seriously, you and Ledders need to grow the **** up.

what's wrong with a pitch invasion?

at least me and raju have some fun when we go to a match, have a few beers etc. as im young most of going to football is the social side, getting lashed beforehand then out on the pull in the evening afterwards.

you only live once, and especially you're only young once with no responsibilities, i might as well enjoy myself.

this is only half true. the US hasn't played in Copa America that much and last year it was pointless as we didn't send a worthy side for it

I personally have believed that CONMEBOL and CONCACAF should join forces for an Americas Cup to replace the Gold Cup and Copa America. Both sides would profit from doing this, and it would be a great competetive tournament



I think that the Cote d'Ivoire needs to prove themselves a bit more to be thrown into this discussion as they've come on more recently then anything. Of the african nations that have a chance to go deep in the 2010 WC, it has to be nigeria and cameroon and Nigeria has been on the cusp for a long time, and like you said, its the defending that is their undoing

At this point though, I don't think that any nation outside of South America or Europe has the ability to win a WC. There's just such a divide at this point money wise which can hinder nations while the talent gap certainly has been shrinking

How could this possibly be true when Nigeria are so clearly inferior to both Cameroon and Ivory Coast? In 2 years suddenly they will be the biggest challengers for the WC out of the African teams? Come on man, the Super Eagles finest generation has come and gone, they may be a top side again in the future but that's gonna be more than 2 years away.

I don't see how money has much at all to do with International football? Brazil has been one of the most bankrupt countries in the world for a long long time, Argentina hasn't been far behind, and of all the European countries, Italy has been just about the most shambolic financially post-war.

That said, the World Cup in South Africa may just break the mould. It will be like a home game for any of the African nations, if they can just pull their organisation together to go with their talent then a win is possible, but I would agree there's no realistic prospect of anyone winning on European or South American soil in the near future.

I didn't say that Nigeria would be the biggest challengers, just one of them. Lets also be honest, 2 years in international football is a long time and 4 years is almost an eternity. Its impossible to predict who will be the favorites when qualification hasn't even happened yet

No it isn't. Favourites will be Brazil, followed by Argentina, and probably Germany/Italy more or less equal behind that.

Brazil and Argentina were supported for a very long time by their military governments, so money wasn't an issue. Theres also the fact that those two nations have generally been an anomoly in that there is just soooo much talent that comes from them and consistently

The difference with Italy has been that their clubs are rich, so the FA has been saved because of that fact

nit

Heh, I'll be right though

Either Brazil or Argentina will win.

It's very simple. When the WC is held in Europe, an European nation wins. When the WC is helf outside Europe, either Brazil or Argentina win.

This pattern has a 100% success rate since 1962.

Please guys, don't lump Brazil and Argentina together when talking about consistent success. Brazil have been favorites every single World Cup. Argentina comes far behind.

Wrong. Until Sweden they were a non-factor.

Fatshaft, There was something missing from your youth I am sure.

Brasil being the only team to win it outside of their own continent shows what a massive achievement that is. Can you see a European side doing this? Given that the top African players are playing in Europe now I think its more likely an African nation will do it first. But I quite like the fact that only Brasil have done it. It sets them apart from the rest and they deserve to be in their own bracket. Awesome, awesome sides.