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07-20-2012 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by t3hbandit
I'm very curious as to why Fergie would announce the bid, he rarely speaks publicly about players we're in negotiations for and especially not for someone like RVP who we're competing with City to sign, it leaves the Club open to ridicule (from City fan's) if they sign him and we don't. One thing's for sure Fergie never does anything without a strategic goal in mind, it's possible he's making it public due to lack of ST sales or maybe just to drive the price up on City.
Didn't he speak publicly about Nasri too?

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Originally Posted by chilin_dude
Obviously I wasn't reffering to CSKA, but the teams they went to after. They went from a poorer league (Russian) to bigger leagues and failed, and as such their next teams didn't recoup 50% of their transfer fee even though they were young. Like you said they would.
Moving the goalposts again I see, lol. We were talking specifically about young players from Brazil moving to Europe. (which is why you incorrectly referenced two Brazilians and not two random players)

Vagner Love stayed there for more than 6 years and ran his contract down to move back to Brazil and he hasn't even been back there long enough on a permanent basis to have failed (actually done decent) so again i'm not sure what you're talking about there.
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07-20-2012 , 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Langerdang
Welbeck is a full England international and looks likely to be a starter from now on. He's rumoured to being offered £45k a week at United, he probably feels he's worth double that and could easily get it elsewhere.
I really don't know about this.

How many clubs have the financial means to pay him 90k/week?

And how many of those clubs wouldn't be able to afford to go after higher caliber players than Welbeck?

I mean lets just throw out an example. If Chelsea would be willing to pay 90k/wk to Welbeck why wouldn't they also be willing to go all over the continent and S. America to pay players 90-130k/wk that are significantly better (Cavani level players)

Are there many mid level teams in the EPL that would blow their brains out for him? Newcastle has a totally different philosophy now, AVB is going to go fishing in the Portugese/S. American player pools, Arsenal would rather just develop their own Welbeck, etc.

There's a reason United feels they can play hardball here.
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07-20-2012 , 09:10 PM
It's been two days since Wenger watched Brazil train at Colney and not one news outlet has reported any potential Neymar to Arsenal deals? They're slipping.
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07-20-2012 , 10:25 PM
Or just not bothering, maybe a Neymar to Arsenal rumor is below even the average internet sports hack?

But jesus is this a depressing moment or what.
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07-21-2012 , 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Aidan
Or just not bothering, maybe a Neymar to Arsenal rumor is below even the average internet sports hack?

But jesus is this a depressing moment or what.
Not all bad news...our favorite Messi-raper and goat waterboy extended his contract until 2017 (65k/week).

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07-21-2012 , 04:16 AM
Afellay to Dortmund (and Schalke) rumors floating around. Doubt we're interested seems like Kuba is about to extend his contract untill 2015. Reus,Götze,Kuba,Perisic and Kevin + Bittencourt,Amini,Leitner etc. = we're pretty much set there.

He's probably still pretty good but dunno given injury and lack of playing time. His wage is probably going to be an issue as well and he seemed a little dickish during the Euros (but that's probably due to lol BvM)

Supposedly a ~6 million Euro buyout clause, for that money I wouldn't mind snapbuy and think about how to use him later though (assuming decent wage). Surely he's worth more.

Good timing of that rumor for some tiny leverage in extending Kuba I guess :P

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07-21-2012 , 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by PoseidonCubed
Not all bad news...our favorite Messi-raper and goat waterboy extended his contract until 2017 (65k/week).

<3
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07-21-2012 , 07:26 AM
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ESPN understands that Chelsea have had a £17 million bid for Borussia Dortmund striker Robert Lewandowski rejected.
ESPN understands, guys


and not even a (false) hint at a source
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07-21-2012 , 07:45 AM
If they come back next year with the same offer they have a chance.
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07-21-2012 , 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Langerdang
Jamie Mackie is apparently heading in the opposite direction to Junior Hoilett and joining Blackburn.
The fans would revolt if they sold Mackie. We could probably get just as much for SWP and the fans would celebrate in the streets.
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07-21-2012 , 11:54 AM
Sugar Nut understands that David Alaba is out for 6-8 weeks with a broken foot.

The twoplustwo formums understand that Sugar Nut wants to kill people.
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07-21-2012 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by PoseidonCubed
Not all bad news...our favorite Messi-raper and goat waterboy extended his contract until 2017 (65k/week).



could be worse, for sure
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07-21-2012 , 12:07 PM
If we sign Cazorla this summer and RVP leaves I would honestly say we are in a stronger position than we were at the end of last season.
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07-21-2012 , 12:10 PM
Yeah, im getting kind of moisty at the thoughts of getting in Cazorla. There has to be other clubs interested though.
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07-21-2012 , 12:34 PM
Yeah true but if he wants to start and play CL we've gotta be one of the best options.
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07-21-2012 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Green Kool Aid
The fans would revolt if they sold Mackie. We could probably get just as much for SWP and the fans would celebrate in the streets.
I bet they won't.

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Originally Posted by Sugar Nut
Sugar Nut understands that David Alaba is out for 6-8 weeks with a broken foot.

The twoplustwo formums understand that Sugar Nut wants to kill people.
I'll want to kill SugarNut if continues to talk about himself in the third person.
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07-21-2012 , 01:00 PM
Quick move and get it done, if possible.
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07-21-2012 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Queen6Suited
If we sign Cazorla this summer and RVP leaves I would honestly say we are in a stronger position than we were at the end of last season.
Agreed. Also, if Arsenal can get 20 million for RVP that would be reasonable.
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07-21-2012 , 01:17 PM
It's going to come down to how quick Podolski and and Giroud settle I think. If they can bang in goals you'll be fine, if not then it'll be a struggle to replace RVP.

Cazorla is pretty awesome though.
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07-21-2012 , 01:23 PM
Thats what I was getting at with Giroud, he is more likely to struggle early than not IMO, it's gonna be a bit of a shock to the system coming into the PL. Some guys hit he ground running while others tend to take their time to settle. Not convinced with Podolski myself but I guess we can only sit back and watch things unfold.

Cazorla would be a really really good pick up but it's Arsenal we are talking about here so I doubt it happens.
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07-21-2012 , 01:27 PM
Yea it's all 'ifs' with regards to Cazorla. Also I agree that Giroud/Podolski will need to start well. Their first 10 fixtures are pretty tough. Liverpool, City and United away and Chelsea at home. At least they don't have to worry about CL qualification so that eases the early schedule slightly.
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07-21-2012 , 01:50 PM
Cazorla will probably end up extending his contract at malaga for more play money and then cry when he doesn't get paid on time.
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07-21-2012 , 02:32 PM
For most of the past 4 years people like Chamakh and Bendtner got more minutes then RVP because he was never healthy. Last season was the only one where RVP made more league appearances then one of them, and we were "fine' in those years, even if we did underachieve.

Still think we need to move on a first team MF, even if a player like Cazorla were to come in.
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07-21-2012 , 02:34 PM
There are a lot more better teams in the league now though.
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