The article is a really quick read (or see Wiki below for synopsis). Do you have specific allegations against the book? You'd think if there were any factual innacuracies Bonds would have been all over them:

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_of_Shadows)

"Bonds sued the authors and publisher of the book over its use of grand jury documents and tried to block the publishers and authors from profiting from such documents.[2] On March 24, Judge James Warren denied the request, citing free speech protections for the authors and that the lawsuit had little chance for success.[3] On June 12, 2006, Barry Bonds dropped his lawsuit against the authors. Michael Rains, Bonds’ attorney, stated that he dropped the lawsuit because the authors had been subpoenaed to be part of an investigation into who leaked the secret grand jury transcripts, which is what Bonds wanted all along."


Wiki pages usually have a few lines about any hint of controversy. And the only dirt that seems to be mentioned on this book is allegations about who leaked what, when. I was actually surprised there wasn't more dispute of the facts on this page. (By contrast there's a couple paragraphs bashing the Dog Whisperer.)

Did Gammons really say ~20%? LOLOLOL

Some players out of the game now commenting on the era say the better question would be who wasnt using steroids?

I don't get this. We know he took some steroids--his name has been leaked with a positive test and he's on trial for perjury (I'm talking as a human-being here, not lawyer-speak). We know his head and body got gigantic and according to the Game of Shadows guys the Giants even considered confronting him about his appearance. We know his Dad's performance dropped off a table in his mid 30s. We know tons of people interviewed for that book said he took tons of steroids for the sole purpose of eclipsing McGwire and Sosa and being the best in baseball.

I agree none of these on it's own is enough to damn the guy, and maybe all together they're still not enough to convict in a court of law. But would you really look at all that and bet even 10-1 that Bonds didn't take a crap-ton of steroids - thus dramatically altering the natural decline that his Dad and most players experience? It really surprises me that this is even in dispute. I bet if you poll the baseball writers of America 99% would agree Bonds probably took a ton of roids and it probably dramatically altered his late career.

I know baseball writers are all morons who know nothing about baseball compared to an internet poker forum.

suz, you should really read the RedBean/Bonds thread

That or he could smash himself in the face with a hammer a few teams. Either way he ends up with his head hurting.

Fingers need to be pointed at Selig and the Union commish...not the players...These two people openly allowed/encouraged the use of steroids because the big numbers brought revenues. I dont look down upon or blame any player who was using. What would any of you do if Baseball openly allowed the use, and made it possible for you to get millions of more dollars; freakin hypocrites most of you are.

anything to support the red sox. we do know that gammons claimed on multiple occasions that a-rod passed on being thought of as the greatest player of all time by going to the yankees and not the red sox.

Lol at these headlines on the page linked:

Jayson Stark: Baseball's last hope is gone
Schilling: Name 104 positives not just A-Rod
Howard Bryant: Future king tainted
Buster Olney: A-Rod tarnished forever
Mark Fainaru-Wada: How did we get here?
"Baseball Tonight" reacts to A-Rod
Rob Neyer: A-Rod still a great player
Ex-teammate Young says A-Rod will succeed
Primer on Alex Rodriguez
Jayson Stark: Game's history destroyed
Buster Olney: Blaming those in power

First, lmfao at jayson stark. A little dramatic?

You know you are in a bad gruop when Curt Schilling is among the most reasonable people among you.

Rob Neyer reasonable as always.



I loved A-rod's admission and found it honest...sure it doesn't erase the fact that he did it, but I can't blame him for being one of the ones who got caught. All you can measure somebody by is their decisions and then how they deal with the consequences for their decisions. He is the best by far in the "deal with consequences" realm(much better than liar andy pettitte who claims "just once") - though obviously he is not better than the people who never used. Who can really blame someone for taking part in a very prevalent aspect of his culture at such a young age? I can't kill ANYBODY for using steroids who is a professional athlete/fringe professional athlete, and I respect anybody who owns up to something once accused.

James

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Your winnings, sir?

Here is his interview.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3894847

qft

I was disappointed when the news broke on the weekend but I'm pretty happy how he's handled it. also, I hope he absolutely murders the ball this year, just because.

I'm really scared I'll get sucked in and never make it out.

Well of course, a posteriori.

Def surprised he admitted to using entire time he was in Texas.

I agree. It's obvious Selig is a spineless, visionless, reactive failure as a baseball comissioner. I agree that Fehr is also responsible for resisting testing for so long. Although to some degree as the player's advocate, he's supposed to push back on anything that could potentially adversely affect the union members.

Redbean must not be working tonight...

So it doesn't matter that they took steroids, but whether or not they are likable and/or contrite afterwards.

Gotcha.

It's also a fact that Barry Bonds never violated the MLB Steroid Policy, and yet you choose to hold him more responsible than several of those that did.

I know what you mean.

To the person who said they respect ARod more today than yesterday; do you respect him more than you did three days ago?

It helps. Its reflected in sentence differences for criminals all the time.

exhibit A: Ted Haggard

simply being very vocal against something doesn't mean a ton, it does however make it far more hilarious when people find out you were full of ****

man, that must be sweet. To cheat, and know no one outside your "click" will ever find out. OLD BOYS CLUB BOOYAH.

It's much better to crucify only 1 out of the 115 players who cheated though?