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Originally Posted by 72off
also, assuming that mizuhara is the only one guilty of anything, i fail to see how it benefits him at all to change his story from "yeah ohtani agreed to repay my debts" to "no he didn't + no comment on me stealing the money".
Because it's true and his original story no longer has any legs? Like at first he made up a story that absolves him of criminal conduct, while making Ohtani a sympathetic figure and was hoping to get Ohtani to buy in, since he's used to Ohtani being like a younger brother that tends to go along with him, then the whole thing blew up when Ohtani freaked out? Like how is he going to stick to the original story if Ohtani isn't in on the cover-up?
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Originally Posted by 72off
isn't this exactly what he just did? for no apparent reason...
If Ippei is guilty, he has a lot of reasons to appear contrite, given that he's clearly going to be the bad guy in the public opinion. Also, you seem to be going from one extreme where Ippei is selflessly being the fall guy for no reason to the other extreme where Ippei is literally only worrying about himself. In reality, Ippei likely has genuine feelings of guilt and to some extent wants to make amends, but clearly is in a lot of trouble, which is leading to all kinds of contradictions.
With that said, at this point in time, he doesn't know exactly what the prosecutors will go after and what concrete evidence there is, which means he has reason not to get into the specifics to self-incriminate. And that's the general tendency of guilty people, there's a lot of conflicting emotion, where part of them wants to come clean and make amends for victim, whereas part of them wants to rationalize and act like what they did wasn't so bad.
And for the most part, that's what Ippei sounds like, he admitted to things that are not illegal (lying in the first interview) and vaguely admitted to being the bad guy in every way (i.e. it's all him, not Ohtani) but kept the details to a minimum.
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Originally Posted by 72off
i'm assuming nothing, i simply asked some questions about how bookies operate because i have no clue. i am however skeptical that someone would let this guy run up a tab like that with no clear assurance of how he can repay. seems like they're saying this guy told the bookie that ohtani would pay for him, and he took that at face value without ever having any contact with ohtani at all. sounds pretty suss, but i'd love to hear from ppl who know how this works. not your random fanfic speculation though
Not sure why you're backtracking now, when the assumptions I pointed out were baked into your rhetorical question. Also, are you really going the "just asking questions" route when you went: "like does it even make sense ... actually the 2nd one seems completely implausible huh."
Also, at this point, the details that have come out makes the conspiracy theory completely implausible - I mean, are you trying to say at this point that Balelo and his people are involved in a criminal conspiracy to cover up for Ohtani so that he can avoid like a 50K fine?
Last edited by candybar; 03-22-2024 at 11:26 PM.