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08-21-2017 , 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
You may be right about the story in the books, but here's the thing: he's never finishing the books.
yeah mb, I was more arguing against the point that the White Walkers haven't made it very far bc they were waiting for a cold front to move in
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08-21-2017 , 02:58 PM
I can sorta buy that they havent moved anywhere because they dont yet have a way to breach the wall. they think a dragon will be able to enhance their efforts, and NIGHT KING has his own future-seeing ability to know the lol plan of snowcean's 7 so he set that trap of one wight for them to catch thus causing the dragons to come to the rescue.

still doesn't make any sense why dany sent top men on this mission in the first place
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08-21-2017 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
lol at Breaking Bad being great. Literally the only thing that was alluring about Breaking Bad is that otherwise trustworthy people said it was good so some idiots (lol me) got tricked into watching it.

I'm pretty convinced that the idea of Breaking Bad being worth watching at all, much less an elite show, is just a world class troll that a large portion of society was in on.
10000000%

Kept waiting for it to get good and it never happened or came close
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08-21-2017 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Kneel B4 Zod
the Bran and Arya "arcs" have suffered as a consequence of the light speed the show is going on. Just this season Arya has acted like a total spaced out weirdo (with Hot Pie), a regular teenager type (with Ed Sheeren), and now is a pissed off sister. I have absolutely no sense of who Arya is at any point.
She wears MANY FACES. How much clearer could the writers make this?

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08-21-2017 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BobboFitos
I think, like almost every show, is I am most disappointed in how the show completely lured me in and I loved it only for it to become ****ing ridiculous and stupid.

The only show that didn't do this at all was Breaking Bad. Even the Wire had a massive dropoff in the last season. It's excusable because seasons 3 and 4 were the peak of television, and the GOATiest of GOATs, but still, it was big dropoff with some unreasonable and silly plot devices that didn't exist elsewhere.

Kudos to Breaking Bad. Likely the greatest show that will ever be made.
GoT is off the rails now, but anything having to do with Uncle Nazi and his merry band of murderous Nazi friends in the last season of BB was ridiculous- the last episode especially. BB held out pretty long though. As far as nothing out and out nonsensical happening, I'd say Sopranos did it the best.
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08-21-2017 , 03:26 PM
Would also suggest BSG for actually keeping its **** together despite having a lot to manage.
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08-21-2017 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by dkgojackets
I can sorta buy that they havent moved anywhere because they dont yet have a way to breach the wall. they think a dragon will be able to enhance their efforts, and NIGHT KING has his own future-seeing ability to know the lol plan of snowcean's 7 so he set that trap of one wight for them to catch thus causing the dragons to come to the rescue.

still doesn't make any sense why dany sent top men on this mission in the first place
yeah, mb, but I doubt we'll ever get that explanation

also, if they have the technology to link together miles of chains to pull dragons out of the water, they have the technology to build ladders to scale the wall so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

aside - are we thinking the dragon burns down the wall? or they still do ladders but the dragon burns the defenders off the top?
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08-21-2017 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
WHERE THE **** IS GHOST
A friend told me that the absence of Ghost has been purely because of CGI budget considerations.
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08-21-2017 , 03:51 PM
Time hasn't been kind to the last season of Breaking Bad at all imo. Walt's tape in "Confessions" might be the high point in the show (and is by far the best part of the final season - LOL Ozymandias fan boys) and Ozymandias was indeed really good - but the whole thing and Nazi plot line was essentially deus ex final season.

Still probably in my top 5-10 of all time, most likely 4-8 somewhere - but I think it's final season gets a much, much better rep than it deserves in hindsight.

Last edited by TimmayB; 08-21-2017 at 04:19 PM.
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08-21-2017 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Kneel B4 Zod
yeah, mb, but I doubt we'll ever get that explanation

also, if they have the technology to link together miles of chains to pull dragons out of the water, they have the technology to build ladders to scale the wall so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

aside - are we thinking the dragon burns down the wall? or they still do ladders but the dragon burns the defenders off the top?
the wall is supposedly 700 feet tall, would be some insane ladders. how would you lift them up? magic maybe. butyeah i think they want to use the dragon to at least weaken the defenses at the top if not weaken the wall itself since its made of ice.

also afaik the wights still can't even cross the wall. benjen couldnt because he is undead. maybe they are brainstorming a solution for this issue
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08-21-2017 , 03:54 PM
Is undead zombie dragon going to breathe ice? Cause that would be cool.
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08-21-2017 , 03:55 PM
I assume the wall coming down and the walkers crossing is a lock to be the final shot of the season.

Thought it would be ice dragon but they did that here.

Episode was awesome LOL haters. Completely nonsensical - but awesome to watch.
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08-21-2017 , 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
lol at Breaking Bad being great. Literally the only thing that was alluring about Breaking Bad is that otherwise trustworthy people said it was good so some idiots (lol me) got tricked into watching it.

I'm pretty convinced that the idea of Breaking Bad being worth watching at all, much less an elite show, is just a world class troll that a large portion of society was in on.
lol
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08-21-2017 , 04:08 PM
Considering bashing my head against the wall before the last episode. Maybe i can enjoy what i assume is gonna be an hour of GoT by Michael Bay.
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08-21-2017 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by dkgojackets
the wall is supposedly 700 feet tall, would be some insane ladders. how would you lift them up?
pretty sure climbing the wall has been done in the show. Jon and Tormund climb it back in the Mance Rayder season right?

they didn't use ladders but the idea is the same - it's possible to climb, and doesn't seem any harder than pulling a dragon out from under water
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08-21-2017 , 04:23 PM
Just to point out again for the umpteenth time for certain unskilled GOT watchers, the problem the undead have with the wall is not just its height.

Its got magic that stops the UD passing it.
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08-21-2017 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by O.A.F.K.1.1
Just to point out again for the umpteenth time for certain unskilled GOT watchers, the problem the undead have with the wall is not just its height.

Its got magic that stops the UD passing it.
Just to point out to a certain unskilled GOT watcher, The Night King has MARKED Bran and Bran is now south of the wall. This is most likely how they will bring the magic around/bring the actual wall down.
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08-21-2017 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TimmayB
Just to point out to a certain unskilled GOT watcher, The Night King has MARKED Bran and Bran is now south of the wall. This is most likely how they will bring the magic around/bring the actual wall down.
So your saying the ladder speculation is moot?

lol.

Yea obviously they will find a way to circumvent the magic. (most likely)

lol worst burn evvvah.
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08-21-2017 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Chips Ahoy
A lot of the plot holes vanish if Bran is on team whitewalker. Then he's giving perfect info to the night king by warging into birds + morse code. so his power isn't being wasted. The perfect info could cause a decision to delay. Maybe an ice dragon helps them get past the wall.
I really want this now.
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08-21-2017 , 04:42 PM
It's going to be hilarious when Jon and Dany go back north, get wiped out, and Cersei comfortably sits the throne because the walkers can't cross the wall
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08-21-2017 , 04:43 PM
Yeah I think the wall is just going to tumble and the ladder/climbing speculation will be moot but I could definitely be wrong there.
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08-21-2017 , 04:52 PM
The show will choose the dumbest option
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08-21-2017 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BobboFitos
I think, like almost every show, is I am most disappointed in how the show completely lured me in and I loved it only for it to become ****ing ridiculous and stupid.

The only show that didn't do this at all was Breaking Bad. Even the Wire had a massive dropoff in the last season. It's excusable because seasons 3 and 4 were the peak of television, and the GOATiest of GOATs, but still, it was big dropoff with some unreasonable and silly plot devices that didn't exist elsewhere.

Kudos to Breaking Bad. Likely the greatest show that will ever be made.
More like most overrated show ever made. The Wire is so far superior to Breaking Bad it's not even close. A show were Skyler and Walt Jr got significant air time can never be the GOAT by default, but the show as a whole is so overrated
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08-21-2017 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Vagos
A friend told me that the absence of Ghost has been purely because of CGI budget considerations.
How many ghosts can you make with the budget of 1000 wights pulling huge chains?
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08-21-2017 , 05:28 PM
no ghost because of budget constraints is obvious bs.
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