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07-31-2017 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by GeoffRas22
Yes, and that has been dumb the entire time. How hard is that to understand? If, in the show, there was an explanation for why they were able to travel or build stuff fast then it would be ok. But there isn't. The explanation is "lazy writing".
No, the explanation is it would make for super boring TV if it took people 3 seasons to build ships and 4 episodes to go from point A to point B. I mean, how did Jon show up in Dragonstone so fast. He had just left and next thing we know he is there and nothing else has happened to any of the characters!

Also, we don't know that he had to build these from scratch. They had some ships to start so maybe they only built a few or even none.
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07-31-2017 , 12:31 PM
I hope next episode is 60 minutes of watching the unsullied walk back towards dragonstone with nothing happening. That way I can be sure to know how they get back to Dany.
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07-31-2017 , 12:42 PM
i want to see dany turn on jon with the dragons and jon just chills in the fire proving hes a targaryean. then hes just like "looks like im the real king bitchbye"
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07-31-2017 , 01:00 PM
for all its faults, at least GoT is still miles better than BALLERS


- some running back (?) throws a fit about needing a new agent, gets set up with new agent, misses meeting without calling, agent gets jacked bc he was told to meet them in the projects or something, later they keep it real and go get his money back
- o-line guy doesn't know who he can trust in the Dolphins front office, so he naturally discusses they entire situation with NFL INSIDER JAY GLAZER
- Ricky plays craps for like 20 minutes
- Chris Carter is around for some reason
- the Cowboys DT guy gets a weed-related sponsorship deal, which makes everyone NERVOUS
- and in the main event, THE ROCK tries to bring the NFL to Las Vegas

The Rock: "i want to bring the NFL to Las Vegas"
Councilman: "i dunno Rock, i think it's a waste of taxpayers' money"
The Rock: "hey check this out" *wrecks a monster truck*
Councilman: "ahhhhhhhhh yaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!"

wat


i really have no idea why i'm still watching
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07-31-2017 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by dkgojackets
i want to see dany turn on jon with the dragons and jon just chills in the fire proving hes a targaryean. then hes just like "looks like im the real king bitchbye"


was thinkin the same thing, at least wrt it being cool if the Jon=Targaryen reveal was made by him walking through fire or something along those lines.
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07-31-2017 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 72off
for all its faults, at least GoT is still miles better than BALLERS


- some running back (?) throws a fit about needing a new agent, gets set up with new agent, misses meeting without calling, agent gets jacked bc he was told to meet them in the projects or something, later they keep it real and go get his money back
- o-line guy doesn't know who he can trust in the Dolphins front office, so he naturally discusses they entire situation with NFL INSIDER JAY GLAZER
- Ricky plays craps for like 20 minutes
- Chris Carter is around for some reason
- the Cowboys DT guy gets a weed-related sponsorship deal, which makes everyone NERVOUS
- and in the main event, THE ROCK tries to bring the NFL to Las Vegas

The Rock: "i want to bring the NFL to Las Vegas"
Councilman: "i dunno Rock, i think it's a waste of taxpayers' money"
The Rock: "hey check this out" *wrecks a monster truck*
Councilman: "ahhhhhhhhh yaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!"

wat


i really have no idea why i'm still watching
This was my first ep of Ballers watched since early s1. Can confirm these cliffs are accurate. It was shocking to watch.
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07-31-2017 , 01:13 PM
lol watching ballers after season 1
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07-31-2017 , 01:19 PM
fair, but hey, i'm plot committed
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07-31-2017 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
No, the explanation is it would make for super boring TV if it took people 3 seasons to build ships and 4 episodes to go from point A to point B.
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
Also, we don't know that he had to build these from scratch. They had some ships to start so maybe they only built a few or even none.
but that's the problem! it's completely unexplained . You're saying Euron asked his people to build him 1,000 ships, but actually maybe he built none, and that's ok bc otherwise it would be boring?

No, obviously not. You can have things be EXCITING and MAKE SENSE. It was the writers choice to throw in the line about 1,000 ships. They could have chosen a completely different path, like Euron already having his needed fleet! or introduced this storyline last season. or any other direction.

(yeah I'll be that guy and mention that in the books the entire Iron Fleet was 100 ships total)
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07-31-2017 , 01:27 PM
sounded like they were building ships from scratch in his big speech. he was all "men go cut down trees, women sew sails and ****, cause we need 1000 GOAT ships by like next episode, k? #MIIGA"
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07-31-2017 , 01:29 PM
I mean, the whole sequence is pretty lol:

- Theon and Yara steal a whole bunch of ships to take to Dany
- Euron builds 1,000 ships bc Theon and Yara just stole all those ships
- Dany uses the Theon/Yara ships to sail to Dragonstone
- Euron destroys all the Theon/Yara ships and captures them

Why not just have Theon and Yara run away with one ship bc they are mad they lost the Kingsmoot, have Dany use ships from the 900 cities and slavers she just dragon'd over, and that way Euron doesn't need to magically build 1,000 ships and has a navy that isn't staffed by the leftover Iron Islanders?
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07-31-2017 , 01:33 PM
Why are people responding to CDL and letting him wreck the thread? Haven't you learned from the hundreds of other times he wrote something dumb which hijacked discussion?

Anyway, I know this will end badly but I'm all-in on #TEAMEURON. Reckless, crass, pisses people off while getting **** done, or making a mess depending on who you ask. He's clearly based on TRUMP.
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07-31-2017 , 01:40 PM
They only stole some of the best ships. There was nothing that said Theon and Yara stole all the ships that I can recall. Can anyone cite that all the ships were stolen?
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07-31-2017 , 01:46 PM
as for GoT, along with maybe thinking that KL still had gold, guessing Tyrion didn't consider that Cersei would abandon it out of pride or whatever. i don't think Tywin would have. anyway, that was pretty clever.

and what's Littlefinger's play here gonna be? outside of ****ing over Sansa and trying to take Winterfell on Cersei's behalf (especially bc Varys being on #TeamDany probably rules that option out), i'm at a loss. he's just been chillin, and smirkin, and passing down pointless life lessons since Battle of the Bastards.

also, the significance of?:

- the Jon being killed bit. Davos said it, it was noted, then Dany & Tyrion talked about it again, giving it extra significance. not sure why it matters though. it was Lord of Light magic or whatever, but Dany is also supported by the LoL, so ... what?
- and speaking of which, Varys really seems like he's in for some Lord of Light showdown
- and i missed it, but guy in OOTV saying that Littlefinger had a nervous look when they were talking about how Maester Luwin backed up all his data. he's been dead since Reek took Winterfell (so nothing in there about his dealings with the Boltons, though Bran might know), so what could be bad in there for LF?
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07-31-2017 , 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 72off
as for GoT, along with maybe thinking that KL still had gold, guessing Tyrion didn't consider that Cersei would abandon it out of pride or whatever. i don't think Tywin would have. anyway, that was pretty clever.

and what's Littlefinger's play here gonna be? outside of ****ing over Sansa and trying to take Winterfell on Cersei's behalf (especially bc Varys being on #TeamDany probably rules that option out), i'm at a loss. he's just been chillin, and smirkin, and passing down pointless life lessons since Battle of the Bastards.

also, the significance of?:

- the Jon being killed bit. Davos said it, it was noted, then Dany & Tyrion talked about it again, giving it extra significance. not sure why it matters though. it was Lord of Light magic or whatever, but Dany is also supported by the LoL, so ... what?
- and speaking of which, Varys really seems like he's in for some Lord of Light showdown
- and i missed it, but guy in OOTV saying that Littlefinger had a nervous look when they were talking about how Maester Luwin backed up all his data. he's been dead since Reek took Winterfell (so nothing in there about his dealings with the Boltons, though Bran might know), so what could be bad in there for LF?
Think you just typo'd this, but it was THE RAWK (Casterly Rock), not KL, that Tyrion had the unsullied sack.

And I think the resurrection thing made them think wait a second, perhaps this ironically named Jon SNOW (note: snow is cold, like ice!) is actually AZOR AHAI (the FIRE god), brought back to life by the Lord of LIGHT!

That's all I got out of it.
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07-31-2017 , 01:55 PM
er yeah, CR not KL
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07-31-2017 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
They only stole some of the best ships. There was nothing that said Theon and Yara stole all the ships that I can recall. Can anyone cite that all the ships were stolen?
the exact lines were

"they stole our best ships"

followed by

"build me a thousand ships and I will give you this world"

(emphasis mine)

pretty clear that Euron doesn't mean "go get me a thousand ships out of storage" or "build me a grand total of a thousand ships EXCLUDING the exact amount of ships that Theon just stole, if anyone has that count feel free to subtract that number from the grand total of a thousand ships, bc that is the real target number I'm concerned about here"
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07-31-2017 , 02:04 PM
why are we assuming westeros uses a base ten number system? if they use quinary then he's only asking for 125 ships!
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07-31-2017 , 02:09 PM
Kb4z,

Kneel before cdl.
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07-31-2017 , 02:09 PM
This is quickly becoming OOTV quality stuff boys
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07-31-2017 , 02:11 PM
Davos was pretty great this episode. Found the Cersei killing some random sand snake daughter drama drawn out and silly.
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07-31-2017 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Kneel B4 Zod
the exact lines were

"they stole our best ships"

followed by

"build me a thousand ships and I will give you this world"

(emphasis mine)

pretty clear that Euron doesn't mean "go get me a thousand ships out of storage" or "build me a grand total of a thousand ships EXCLUDING the exact amount of ships that Theon just stole, if anyone has that count feel free to subtract that number from the grand total of a thousand ships, bc that is the real target number I'm concerned about here"
ok, so they stole the best ships, but not all the ships and he wants 1,000 more. That seems to be an accurate summary of what the above says. What if he is using the ships they didn't steal and the 1,000 more are still being built?
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07-31-2017 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveSax
Found the Cersei killing some random sand snake daughter drama drawn out and silly.
ya that seemed to go on way too long given that the woat snakes literally never mattered for anything
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07-31-2017 , 02:13 PM
I honestly can't even imagine why people watch TV if they are letting Euron's ships rustle them. It cost me approximately 0 units of enjoyment.
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07-31-2017 , 02:16 PM
I really liked the Cersei scene actually. I agree the sand snakes are like tier 3 characters but that scene was all about how big of a psycho vengeful ***** Cersei is than anything else
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