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07-31-2017 , 08:17 AM
gotta say, euron is growing on me
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07-31-2017 , 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
So the upshot then is:
  • Dany has no more boats, and now has to have the unsullied abandon Casterly Rock and hike back home or they'll just die uselessly in THE ROCK.
they cant leave. euron burned their boats. grey worm watched the boats burning from the castle. and jaimie explained it to oleanna as well. jaimie also mentioned that the lannisters took all of the food and supplies from casterly. grey worm et al are screwed.
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07-31-2017 , 08:29 AM
They should just immediately abandon the rock to march on KL. No point in staying. Wonder if they know how to send or receive ravens, or if the maester was left behind and kept alive.
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07-31-2017 , 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
So the upshot then is:
  • Dany has no more boats, and now has to have the unsullied abandon Casterly Rock and hike back home or they'll just die uselessly in THE ROCK.
  • Tyrion seems to now be (partially) responsible for getting owned by Euron and now getting owned by taking Casterly Rock for no gain, which is to say he's now 0-2 on the season.
  • This means Dany kinda has some dragons and some Dothraki dudes who will probably be GREAT in the winter. . .
  • Speaking of Tyrion, how does he not realize that Casterly Rock is useless?
  • Jon gets his glass, seems not to have realized the dragons might also have utility against MEN MADE OF ICE. No one is surprised by this failure.
  • SAM saved Mormont, who will return to Dany and say - what, exactly, that we care about? It's not like he knows anything useful, or am I forgetting something?
  • Dorne is finally done(ish). Really don't care about them at all.
  • The Lannisters, by taking Highgarden, now have $$$$$$$$$ again. Chase a check, etc.
  • Bran sucks.
  • Bankers are the worst.
  • Winterfell is basically a siegefort and they have no chance of repelling the Lannisters in open battle, so unless WINTER IS COMING it's GG for Sansa and her scrappy army of guys who play the game the right way.
  • Bran, theoretically, has some interesting things to say to Jon about who he is. Seems like Mr. I See The Future might have ANTICIPATED that Jon would not be at Winterfell when Bran got there.
  • Also seems like Bran should be able to tell people whether winter is like, here, or not.
  • Is Ghost even alive anymore?
Agree with most of this, but re the bolded, we know it's winter because of the white raven thing. Plus the North is now covered in permafrost.

I also agree with Jim about the dragons, what's the point in having them if you're never using them? Climb aboard and fly around the realm and be seen and generate some BUZZ and build your brand, Blondie. Sitting in the throne room telling visitors how awesome you are isn't gonna win any wars. Also, yeah Euron got the best of Yara and the Dornish, that's cool, but you have THREE DRAGONS. There is no reason that Euron has a single serviceable ship at this point in the story. Dany desperately needs a Secretary of War to run this because Tyrion's knowledge is limited there.
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07-31-2017 , 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
they cant leave. euron burned their boats. grey worm watched the boats burning from the castle. and jaimie explained it to oleanna as well. jaimie also mentioned that the lannisters took all of the food and supplies from casterly. grey worm et al are screwed.
Yep all true. Dany herself is gonna have to fly in on Drogon to personally rescue them because gat dammit I have to do everything around here
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07-31-2017 , 08:57 AM
Dragons have effectively been used twice right

Dragons tho
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07-31-2017 , 09:25 AM
I'm glad everyone's finally coming around on Bran

****ing useless. Die
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07-31-2017 , 09:30 AM
You'd be a vegetable too if you had seen literally everything. He'll be found propping up a bar at a local VFW drooling into his scotch mumbling about "Charlie" in a few years
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07-31-2017 , 09:41 AM
Littlefinger was especially lol

ANTICIPATE
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07-31-2017 , 09:43 AM
Green fire water was probably for the white walkers. Mad king not so mad after all.
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07-31-2017 , 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
they cant leave. euron burned their boats. grey worm watched the boats burning from the castle. and jaimie explained it to oleanna as well. jaimie also mentioned that the lannisters took all of the food and supplies from casterly. grey worm et al are screwed.
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Originally Posted by Namath12
Yep all true. Dany herself is gonna have to fly in on Drogon to personally rescue them because gat dammit I have to do everything around here
They can AMBULATE their asses back to Dragonstone.

I am aware they no longer have boats. That's why I said Dany lost her boats and that the unsullied have to "hike" back home, a word implying AMBULATION rather than sailing. . .

I do like the idea of war minister VIC writing off an entire division because they "can't" walk.
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07-31-2017 , 09:54 AM
Ha yea that littlefinger monologue seemed like it was supposed to be groundbreaking for Sansa but was really pretty dumb. It just seems like one of those things that's so obvious that it doesn't need to be stated out loud. My feelings may be a bit skewed by a poker background, where that line of thinking is drilled into you repeatedly until it becomes natural, but whatever.
Hope Sansa can now anticipate littlefinger trying to **** her over (or just **** her).

And bran does indeed suck.
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07-31-2017 , 09:55 AM
the boats aren't lost, we know exactly where they are: burnt to pieces at the bottom of the sea
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07-31-2017 , 09:56 AM
Littlefinger confirmed moron. "Consider the possibility, that you should consider possibilities."

Yeah, like the POSSIBILITY that you ain't ever gonna tap that after you sold her off into the Ram's rape dungeon and started a war, dumb****.
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07-31-2017 , 09:59 AM
Looking back kinda funny that bran rolled in, saw Sansa and just flat affected her ass. Little idiot obv knows everyone is toast so he can't even bother getting excited anymore

What a bozo
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07-31-2017 , 10:08 AM
By the way, maybe I missed this, but (1) does Dragonstone even HAVE food stored, and (2) on what boats does Jon propose to bring the dragonglass back to the wall?
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07-31-2017 , 10:09 AM
the dragons will fly it back
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07-31-2017 , 10:10 AM
Bran sees that Jon is at dragonstone and will send some ships
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07-31-2017 , 10:12 AM
does seem like dragonglass arrowheads would be useful

prob only make swords though

JON
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07-31-2017 , 10:14 AM
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the boats aren't lost, we know exactly where they are: burnt to pieces at the bottom of the sea
This was a very good MITCH HEDBERG / NORM reference. I laughed.
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07-31-2017 , 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
They can AMBULATE their asses back to Dragonstone.

I am aware they no longer have boats. That's why I said Dany lost her boats and that the unsullied have to "hike" back home, a word implying AMBULATION rather than sailing. . .

I do like the idea of war minister VIC writing off an entire division because they "can't" walk.
no supplies tho. division aint gonna get very far without food.
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07-31-2017 , 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
By the way, maybe I missed this, but (1) does Dragonstone even HAVE food stored, and (2) on what boats does Jon propose to bring the dragonglass back to the wall?
Food is obviously not important as a real plot point (the show won't last long enough for it to matter), but rather just as a talking point to show that some characters are smart.

Jon came down in a big boat, right? he obviously didn't row down, that was just his way of getting in from his boat Presumably he can haul back a ton in his boat.
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07-31-2017 , 10:22 AM
BRONN sighting btw
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07-31-2017 , 10:23 AM
Or I'm sure he could just whip up a fleet of a few thousand ships in no time if he really had to.
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07-31-2017 , 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Kneel B4 Zod
Food is obviously not important as a real plot point (the show won't last long enough for it to matter), but rather just as a talking point to show that some characters are smart.

Jon came down in a big boat, right? he obviously didn't row down, that was just his way of getting in from his boat Presumably he can haul back a ton in his boat.
Yeah I assumed there were some ships left over from when he borrowed them from Stannis to head to Hardhome and Stannis doesn't need them anymore.

For some reason I thought Dragonstone had a deepwater port but apparently not since they had to row ashore.
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