Yeah this is infuriating. It's actually offensive as someone who pays for HBO that they are employed by the company. The writing has done them no favor but god every line, every accent, is just brutal.

Pretty sure this is how all of A Song of Ice and Fire looks like inside Martin's head:

More like b&b's heads. They upped the rape and general grossness significantly.

I think Sansa's rape was probably extra gross given that most of the people on set have known her since she was like 15, now they're filming her be raped. Granted they didn't really film anything since they didn't show anything but I'd guess that's why they didn't show more.

Checked GoT on reddit and apparently the Sansa rape isn't in the book.

Lol, don't even have words for that.

Yeah I'm officially at the point where I couldn't care less about book spoilers and read most of the recap articles after that constantly compare. The books seem almost as terrible as the show at this point.

Reddit going HAM on the woat snakes

Shortest Sand Snake is the worst actor on the show. Any time she acts like a badass, especially when she she tries to walk like a badass, I laugh out loud. I'm not buying it. No buy. Zero buy.

They shoulda cloned "deadly little miho" and let her be all 3 sandsnakes.

Perfect. How do you land a major role on one of the most popular shows on TV and you can't even scowl correctly?

Has Joffrey came back from the dead yet

Veep has gotten better every season, I think. Seasons 1 and 2 I was kinda like "Yeah, it's funny, but it's not essential viewing and it's relentlessly bleak." So I put off starting season 3 for a while, but I liked it better than the first two, and I've liked 4 better still so far. (Still haven't seen last night's Veep or Silicon Valley, though.)

I do love her "If I pretend I'm not being manipulative, people won't see through me even though I'm so transparent" attitude. And Lena Headey totally nails Cersei's "I think I'm being much more clever than I really am" face.

We haven't even seen zombie Mountain yet

What do you mean by your last sentence? "It is" in what sense? It can be written to be whatever the writers want it to be. What the people who are angry about this development have a problem with is the idea that the writers wanted to write a scene of a female character being raped solely for the sake of a male character's development. These same people are not inclined to trust the writers, given that they don't believe GoT's writers handle rape as a storytelling device well or even recognize it, given that many of them believe Jaime raped Cersei last season and the writers do not believe the same thing.

I can see where they're coming from. I just have outrage exhaustion when it comes to television + from the rumors I heard I actually expected the scene to be much more graphic and gratuitous than it was. So that's all I have to say on it: Yes, you are probably correct that it was written to be about how the event affects Theon, and that is exactly what people find odious.

That also requests that the viewer care about Theon, which is asking a lot, since he's a beta and a moron and he backstabbed the Starks and he's a liar and he's a coward, etc.

right. they should be able to find a way to advance Theon's plot without a horrible rape scene, and I can definitely see how people are up in arms over this. Sansa should exist for some reason other than making the guys matter

So Jaime is just gonna walk right into the capital of Dorne, grab Myrcella and walk out? What was the plan there? Show is in a laughable decline.

Well, at least Bronn called him out on that.

JAIME: I like to improvise.
BRONN: (points to fake hand) Is that how that happened?

Episode was clearly setting up the future where Theon and Sansa escape with Theon using the magical properties of a Dwarf Cock to restore his manhood so they can live happily ever after.

The worst was her horrendous monologue when asked if she's with war or peace. Like, given how excited she was to jump into that horribly cliche and offensively bad acted story, I'd think her sisters and mom or w.e are probably pretty familiar with the story of her making her choice long ago. So who the **** was she supposed to be talking to.

I'm being put in the position of defending rape culture (nath_headnod.jif), but **** it, I don't like putting kids gloves on art cuz feelings. Why I think the rape scene isn't pointless, purely shock value, etc:

Regardless of what RR intended, or what Benioff intended (though given Benioff's literary work I find it highly probable this is his intention), I think this is a fair deconstruction of Theon.

First, Theon accepts Ramsey's abuse because he subconsciously believes he's deserving of it. His own father loathed him, the Starks were his real family, and he betrayed them to appease his own wicked dad. On top of that, he murdered innocent children.

Thus, his reasons to turn on Ramsey aren't as strong as one would think. On some level, he's accepting of his own personal abuse. It's his penance. And that's really all he's seen.

But now he is witnessing something far worse: a powerless woman being raped by Ramsey. A woman he once considered family no less.

So in essence, in the logic of the Theon plot, yes, witnessing Ramsey torture someone besides himself is necessary for Theon to turn on him. Did it need to be rape? Probably not, but that is the most likely thing to happen between Ramsey and Sansa and is the most consistent with Ramsey's character. And because it is such a depraved act, it is all the more jarring, and all the more likely to snap Theon out of it. I don't think seeing Ramsey torment her verbally is going to get it done.

And apparently she's been nominated for a Best Lead Actress Oscar from some idiot whale movie wen she was a kid. Lol oscars.

Pretty sure Theon has seen him flay a few dozen people living.