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09-05-2013 , 06:57 PM
Curb > Seinfeld
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09-05-2013 , 08:43 PM
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09-05-2013 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Chilltown
I think the Wire nuts are more concerned with being attached to the "perceived greatest show ever", ie, they just want the ****ing street cred.
Why do you think that?
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09-06-2013 , 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Chilltown
I think the Wire nuts are more concerned with being attached to the "perceived greatest show ever", ie, they just want the ****ing street cred.

The Wire won't go down as the greatest TV show ever. I know it. It might get jumped by GOT or BB in the next few years alone but in the future even those two shows will get surpassed. TV is too good now. People now how to make it better. The Sopranos just wasn't that long ago. People didn't need to adjust since network TV still made **** tons of money for much cheaper so there just wasn't that many people trying to pull off that kind of show. Now you have something like GOT which has a 60 mil a year budget just doing everything it can to be the leading edge. The Wire just won't survive. Like Citizen Kane, it'll get surpassed pretty damn quickly if you don't already count GOT and BB as being better shows which I do.

I did think that network TV was actually capable of being as good as the competition but Hannibal has proved me somewhat wrong on that (since it will probably get cancelled within two years but it's still awesome).
I don't think GOT is better than The Wire but I could see it age better if it continues to be good. The show looks amazing. Same with Breaking Bad.
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09-06-2013 , 01:35 AM
I have difficulty engaging anyone who thinks other people only like things to seem cool. It completely neuters any attempt at proper debate over the merits of a show.
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09-06-2013 , 02:04 AM
i think there's merit to what chilltown's saying, but i also think that same opinion applies to some amount of breaking bad fans too
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09-06-2013 , 02:05 AM
I just don't see how it's productive to discussion. It's basically saying, "Oh, you say you like that show? I don't believe you." How do you even proceed from that?
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09-06-2013 , 02:52 AM
Any suitable response is neither serious nor >10 words long.
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09-06-2013 , 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by nath
I just don't see how it's productive to discussion. It's basically saying, "Oh, you say you like that show? I don't believe you." How do you even proceed from that?
Haha, it's amazing how often one sees this opinion on the Internet too. 'Everyone is pretending to like this thing I don't like'. It's the worst aspect of the blanket labeling of anyone who dares enjoy something a little different as a hipster, peacocking his or her love to the other beautiful souls who might also pretend to like it, finally finding social solace with these fakers.

GOT might be the #1 show among 13-18 year old males, I agree with Chilltown there. It all comes down to what you watch television for - if it's mere creation of tension and thus 'entertainment', obviously Breaking Bad and GOT smoke The Wire and all the other great dramas. GOT and BB are fun shows, but there's not much to them - they're very well-plotted and entertaining.
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09-06-2013 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by nath
I have difficulty engaging anyone who thinks other people only like things to seem cool. It completely neuters any attempt at proper debate over the merits of a show.
Really? You have a hard time believing that people like something because other people like it too?

Welcome to human history brah. People are sheep. I could go into this more but I am pretty content with just mocking your lack of self awareness and overall incompetence here.

2+2 is probably the best example of this happening too. Hell I probably fell into it too. Everyone here says its GOAT so it must be true etc. Maybe this point is endlessly debatable so let's get back to facts and the thread.

GOT>Wire
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09-06-2013 , 05:59 PM
I think you like GOT because it has nice special effects and boobs.
LOL at you if you don't think people like movies/tv shows because of special effects and boobs
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09-06-2013 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by R_Webb18
I don't think GOT is better than The Wire but I could see it age better if it continues to be good. The show looks amazing. Same with Breaking Bad.
I have GOT >> The Wire >> every other show right now
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09-06-2013 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Chilltown
Really? You have a hard time believing that people like something because other people like it too?
I have a hard time believing that accusing them of doing so leads to productive or enlightening discussion about that thing.
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09-06-2013 , 06:01 PM
Chilltown knows whats up
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09-06-2013 , 06:07 PM
Put it another way: If you don't believe the people you are talking to believe the things they say, then why are you talking to them in the first place?
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09-06-2013 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by tabbaker
Curb > Seinfeld
I make no distinction between the two so that comparison is moot for me

And yes GOT is obviously the best show but I dunno it's kind of unfair because it's based on strong source material.

While we're at it best animated series OAT:
Spoiler:
Batman the Animated series...pretty mindblowing that it's actually from the early 90s
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09-06-2013 , 07:04 PM
At nath

Because I want them to bow down to me and admit their sheepish ways. ****ing pound them into submission.

And because it takes time to spot them. Triumph is a prime example of a shell who is incapable of independent thought.

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Originally Posted by Fallen Hero
I think you like GOT because it has nice special effects and boobs.
LOL at you if you don't think people like movies/tv shows because of special effects and boobs
Besides Ros, I don't really care about Tits on the show. I could argue that her tits are the best thing about the show but that wouldn't really detract from my main point.
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09-06-2013 , 08:23 PM
Always Sunny 9x01 pretty solid opener for the season btw.
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09-06-2013 , 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Chilltown
Really? You have a hard time believing that people like something because other people like it too?

Welcome to human history brah. People are sheep. I could go into this more but I am pretty content with just mocking your lack of self awareness and overall incompetence here.

2+2 is probably the best example of this happening too. Hell I probably fell into it too. Everyone here says its GOAT so it must be true etc. Maybe this point is endlessly debatable so let's get back to facts and the thread.

GOT>Wire
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Originally Posted by Chilltown
At nath

Because I want them to bow down to me and admit their sheepish ways. ****ing pound them into submission.

And because it takes time to spot them. Triumph is a prime example of a shell who is incapable of independent thought.


Besides Ros, I don't really care about Tits on the show. I could argue that her tits are the best thing about the show but that wouldn't really detract from my main point.
Says the guy who has BB as the GOAT. Everyone and their mother is sucking off BB right now. Your (terrible) logic applies just as much to you as it does to any Wire fan.
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09-06-2013 , 09:42 PM
entirely possible the wire is both the goat and also overrated by the sheeple

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09-06-2013 , 09:44 PM
Obviously?

There probably are people who just say the wire is their favorite show because they think it makes them look cool or whatever. But he is suggesting that the majority of the show's fans are like that which is just ******ed.
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09-06-2013 , 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Chilltown
At nath

Because I want them to bow down to me and admit their sheepish ways. ****ing pound them into submission.
Well, at least you can admit it's about feeding your ego. (Hey, that puts you one step ahead of Walter White!) Don't be surprised if you run into a lot of people who don't want to talk TV with you when you take that approach, though.
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Originally Posted by Chilltown
And because it takes time to spot them. Triumph is a prime example of a shell who is incapable of independent thought.
Really? Triumph's opinion on Breaking Bad suggests a rejection of popular consensus. I think you're just suffering from a failure of imagination, that you are unwilling or unable to accept that people like things for different reasons than you do.

Last edited by nath; 09-06-2013 at 11:28 PM.
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09-07-2013 , 01:08 AM
nathisright. When you begin suggesting that A: people only hold the opinions they do because they want to be like everyone else or B: people only hold the opinions they do because they want to be different from everyone else, you're incapable of having a discussion where people give their opinions about things, because you've already decided that opinions are merely things to suggest social standing and not an actual reflection of the speaker's belief. Honestly, I don't see why someone who holds that view would have thousands of posts on a message board, but I guess it doesn't have to make sense to me.
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09-07-2013 , 01:47 AM
All these years I thought I liked chicken cuz it was delicious, turns out I'm genetically predisposed to liking chicken
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09-07-2013 , 03:20 AM
Surely you don't disagree that people claim to enjoy things more than they actually do for social reasons to a certain extent. It's like scientifically proven and stuff. If you mean it is a non-starter in conversations then yes.
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