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09-02-2013 , 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by KDebo
BB doesn't get my top spot for all time shows because

1) Besides Walter, Jesse, Saul, (later) Mike, and Gus, every other actor sucked. Badger sucked. Skinny Pete sucked. Tuco got so annoying. Marie and Skyler ****ing forget about it. Hank gets annoying as ****. There are very few scenes without Walter/Jesse are memorable. Meanwhile The Wire has hundreds of scenes with any character.

2) They should never of brought back season 5. I am definitely in the minority here, but s4 ending with Walt getting Gus blown up, being on the phone with Skyler (after they have sort of fixed the family) and saying "It's over. I won." was perfect. The cancer became an afterthought to most viewers. They are almost forcing the issue with it this season, trying to come to a close. Now because of it, they are forcing characters into the show. Lydia has almost reached par with Skyler and Marie for me in most annoying character.

3) The writing force feeds you answers, it dumbs the show down for the audience. They shouldn't have to make Jesse explain how he knew Walt killed Mike, but they did. They do that way too much.


It's a good show, enjoyable and definitely top 10. But people putting it above The Wire and The Sopranos don't seem right.
The Wire had no fly episode thus BB wins.

Thankfully The Wire ended with a great last season.
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09-02-2013 , 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by KDebo
1) Besides Walter, Jesse, Saul, (later) Mike, and Gus, every other actor sucked. Badger sucked. Skinny Pete sucked. Tuco got so annoying. Marie and Skyler ****ing forget about it. Hank gets annoying as ****. There are very few scenes without Walter/Jesse are memorable. Meanwhile The Wire has hundreds of scenes with any character.
+1

Breaking Bad is a cool show but you can't have as many just flat-out annoying characters (Skylar, Marie, Hank) or characters who add nothing to the show (the disabled son) and be considered the greatest show of all time or anywhere near it.

Is there a single scene primarily involving those characters that can be cited as an example of what makes the show good?

I know the vast majority of tv shows absolutely suck, but I just don't see how people can view BB as anything better than the best show on right now.

Comparing The Wire to Breaking Bad is like comparing The Godfather to Analyze This.
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09-02-2013 , 08:27 AM
lol @ hank haters

how do you live with yourselves
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09-02-2013 , 09:29 AM
who's hating hank?

once again, bb has to sit there and describe a scene even though 95% of the audience should get it (saul and old yeller in the car)

anyone who thinks s5 of bb is comparable to the rest is flat out wrong. s4 ending could of went down as goat ending but they bit the bullet and wanted more money. half of these characters no one cares about, meanwhile a show like the wire had you upset when dukie would get beat up or the car scene with michael.

****ing skyler going from all loving family to ****ing ted to caring about the family to shocked about drugs to wanting to help cover it up to wanting to quit to wanting to go back into laundering to wanting no one to die to wanting jesse killed. christ what a trainwreck of a character
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09-02-2013 , 09:37 AM
you think hank, badger and skinny pete are bad actors

therefore your arguments are invalid
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09-02-2013 , 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Phildo
you think hank, badger and skinny pete are bad actors

therefore your arguments are invalid
hank is pretty bad, it's just a fact
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09-02-2013 , 09:47 AM
lol no dean norris is an amazing actor. he's not quite bryan cranston or aaron paul but calling him a bad actor is hilariously lol.
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09-02-2013 , 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Fallen Hero
hank is pretty bad, it's just a fact
Loooooool
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09-02-2013 , 09:55 AM
you guys have incredibly low standards for good acting
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09-02-2013 , 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Phildo
lol no dean norris is an amazing actor. he's not quite bryan cranston or aaron paul but calling him a bad actor is hilariously lol.
I don't have any issue with his acting, the character just sucks. He's neither interesting/entertaining nor is he remotely believable as a DEA agent.

I actually like Skinny Pete and Badger because they fit into what IMO BB was at its best: a dramatic get-rich-quick-porn that didn't take itself too seriously.
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09-02-2013 , 10:14 AM
itt we learn who doesn't know a goddamn thing about acting
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09-02-2013 , 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Phildo
you think hank, badger and skinny pete are bad actors

therefore your arguments are invalid
i worded my original statement wrong. i don't think the actors are bad. i think the characters are bad. but skinny pete is a bad actor.

**** this show brought a storyline in s1 into play (marie being a kleptomaniac) only to drop it for no reason, to bring it back up in the worst way possible to move the story along further (cop buddy bringing gale's notes to hank since he helped out marie) THATS how you decide to move the main plot further?
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09-02-2013 , 10:41 AM
Complaining about the acting of a guy who got about 3 minutes of spoken lines in 5 seasons seems like a waste of time.
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09-02-2013 , 11:27 AM
The Wire has won no acting rangz, BB lead alone has what...3?
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09-02-2013 , 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by KDebo
who's hating hank?

once again, bb has to sit there and describe a scene even though 95% of the audience should get it (saul and old yeller in the car)

anyone who thinks s5 of bb is comparable to the rest is flat out wrong. s4 ending could of went down as goat ending but they bit the bullet and wanted more money. half of these characters no one cares about, meanwhile a show like the wire had you upset when dukie would get beat up or the car scene with michael.

****ing skyler going from all loving family to ****ing ted to caring about the family to shocked about drugs to wanting to help cover it up to wanting to quit to wanting to go back into laundering to wanting no one to die to wanting jesse killed. christ what a trainwreck of a character
I don't agree with any of this.
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09-02-2013 , 12:27 PM
I mean S4 finale was cool and all, but the whole show has been building up to Hank vs Walt. You couldn't end the series without Hank finally figuring it out.
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09-02-2013 , 12:52 PM
some people are so clueless its incredible.
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09-02-2013 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by KDebo
i worded my original statement wrong. i don't think the actors are bad. i think the characters are bad. but skinny pete is a bad actor.

**** this show brought a storyline in s1 into play (marie being a kleptomaniac) only to drop it for no reason, to bring it back up in the worst way possible to move the story along further (cop buddy bringing gale's notes to hank since he helped out marie) THATS how you decide to move the main plot further?
You accuse them of "dropping the plot for no reason" then complain when they pick it back up? That's how setting the foundation for your story and your characters' traits works.
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09-02-2013 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Phildo
itt we learn who doesn't know a goddamn thing about acting
I love coming to SE for the latest scoop on what twenty-something bros think the absolute truth is on a matter they have no experience in
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09-02-2013 , 02:29 PM
of all the things to help bring the plot further, you pick something that no one cares about to help move it along?

some of you guys think i'm saying bb is the woat. it's still an enjoyable show, i'm still going to finish it. gus killing victor was a phenomenal scene, when skyler told walt that she was ****ing ted was a great scene, the show has great moments and is much much better than the average show. but i don't agree it should be called goat like some of you guys. i think it's just recency bias that makes you go with that. i bet some of you guys were calling LOST the goat as it was airing, only now to say it's no where close
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09-02-2013 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by nath
I love coming to SE for the latest scoop on what twenty-something bros think the absolute truth is on a matter they have no experience in
yes, because you and phildo have elite experience on acting and know who's the best and who's the worst.
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09-02-2013 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by KDebo
yes, because you and phildo have elite experience on acting and know who's the best and who's the worst.
I don't go around telling people there's NO WAY their opinion could POSSIBLY be valid if it doesn't converge with mine.

Maybe take up your concerns with BB's casting director?
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09-02-2013 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by KDebo
of all the things to help bring the plot further, you pick something that no one cares about to help move it along?
This is exactly what I'm talking about. "I don't care about it, therefore NO ONE cares about it!"
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09-02-2013 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by clowntable
The Wire has won no acting rangz, BB lead alone has what...3?
major travesty. but the wire wasnt popular while it was still on the air, even tho it was pretty clearly the goat tv show/series.

they should receive some retroactive awards for ppl catching on way late and realizing how great it was/is.
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09-02-2013 , 03:15 PM
Didn't think we'd get OOTV level posters itt this quick, KDebo is just terrible.
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