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05-23-2016 , 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by KansasCT
The Freys after the Red Wedding.
Iirc we have a scene of Roose Bolton telling Walder Frey about it.
OK that's what I figured. Makes it even more likely that LF is lying then. Frey's seemed way to powerful to let some ragtag army take them over.

And if it did happened it'd be a lot bigger news and LF wouldn't be the only one who knew it.

If LF isn't lying it's pretty terrible writing. Kinda bad that Sansa would believe him but at least that can be attributed to lolstark I guess.
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05-23-2016 , 09:15 AM
Also it seems pretty likely that Greytrump was the one who burned Dany's ships. The scene where he offers her the ships if she married him and she kills him and takes the ships is gonna be pretty cringe worthy as per yushe with Dany.
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05-23-2016 , 09:18 AM
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OK that's what I figured. Makes it even more likely that LF is lying then. Frey's seemed way to powerful to let some ragtag army take them over.

And if it did happened it'd be a lot bigger news and LF wouldn't be the only one who knew it.

If LF isn't lying it's pretty terrible writing. Kinda bad that Sansa would believe him but at least that can be attributed to lolstark I guess.
Article from last month about the new season kinda shows brienne's fate.

http://www.bustle.com/articles/15519...his-could-mean
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05-23-2016 , 09:19 AM
Yup, had that same idea about euron.

I think lf figures lolstark will ride for RR and he will notify Ramsay and then save her with his knights of the Vale either immediately or after a few years.
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05-23-2016 , 09:21 AM
LF seems to be in a pretty good spot to throw the KotV behind whoever he thinks is gonna win late in the game.

Euron vs. Yara also pretty good forshadowing to November.
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05-23-2016 , 09:23 AM
Euron has to get killed by Theon after all those (lack of) dick jokes.
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05-23-2016 , 09:56 AM
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Ya blackfish thing makes no sense. Sansa definitely getting played unless I missed something. At least I don't remember a scene indicating bf has an army and is ready to march nor do I remember him parlaying with lf.

So lf is like yo sansa, I got knights of the Vale and along with blackfish we gonna eff Ramsay up. Sansa is like cool but I don't trust you or like you BC you tossed me to Ramsay and he raped me bad. Oh wait I trust you about blackfish so I'm just gonna ride over to riverrun but I don't want your help.

Now, iirc, sansa needs to ride across some pretty hostile territory to get to RR. And she is only going on the word of the guy who sold her out cruelly. Ya, as usual, lolol stark.
Well Sansa isn't actually going for now, she's sending Brienne to see if story checks out.

Said this in the other thread but it's still lolstark because like Rob she seems hellbent to not act in the best strategic interests out of "honor" or something. The Vale presumably has a large army that isn't beaten to **** due to not being involved at all up to this point, even if you hate LF (and yeah granted she has reason to hate LF) you've gotta take him up on that offer of assistance. Deal with LF after the dust settles and the battle is won.
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05-23-2016 , 09:59 AM
so after hodor held the door, isnt bran still just like 100 feet away from the swarm and being slowly dragged in open snow
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05-23-2016 , 10:23 AM
Sansa was going somewhere tho. Oh ya, I guess she was going to rally the minor Lords. Regardless, really dumb to leave
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05-23-2016 , 10:35 AM
Hodor. Hold the door. Come on, even Bran must find that lame.
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05-23-2016 , 10:49 AM
Let's not let Jorah's weekly cucking go unnoticed. Can't wait to see him stumble into Danny's throne room with a vial of the stone cure potion and she tells him to leave it on her dresser while getting DP'd by Donald Greyjoy and the other dude.
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05-23-2016 , 10:56 AM
Underrated scene and my favorite of the episode was Varys getting his balls handed to him by the new red woman.
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05-23-2016 , 11:22 AM
this show plays very fast and loose with time / travel (for instance LF making it from the Eyrie to Moles Town so fast), but Euron being in Meeren to burn the boats and then back in Pyke is too much to believe.

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so after hodor held the door, isnt bran still just like 100 feet away from the swarm and being slowly dragged in open snow
yeah, they still seem in need of serious help of some kind. a teenage girl isn't gonna just carry Bran's sled all the way to Castle Black. more importantly a horde of zombies is right behind them and they are in a blizzard

I *hope* the show picks this scene up where they left off and doesn't just transport Bran and Meera to some safe spot, even temporarily. something tells me we'll find them somewhere relatively safe though
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05-23-2016 , 11:35 AM
Guy has been saying hold the door for at least 20 years would think he could buy them enough time
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05-23-2016 , 11:44 AM
I would absolutely die laughing if they keep with this Arya plot every episode for like 2 more seasons then she dies via a blow to the head from the older girl who is no one in training.
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05-23-2016 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Legend
Ok word I'm confused
You knew it was Bravos cuz Arya was watching.

The iron islands thing made literally zero sense. She couldn't get enough support for the election, but like 80% of the town willing to rob all the boats and set sail with her? K.

I have a feeling this Bran effecting the past will happen just this once or one or two more times. Really think it's sloppy and opens up so much crap. But it was a cool scene.

Also have no idea how they successfully escape with only like a 30s head start.
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05-23-2016 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Rei Ayanami
Hodor. Hold the door. Come on, even Bran must find that lame.
Well Bran literally means "crow" in Welsh. Old RR isn't really subtle. I have Hodor as high on RR's wordplay abilities.

Also, Carcetti confirmed worst actor.
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05-23-2016 , 12:33 PM
How dare you.
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05-23-2016 , 12:35 PM
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You knew it was Bravos cuz Arya was watching.

The iron islands thing made literally zero sense. She couldn't get enough support for the election, but like 80% of the town willing to rob all the boats and set sail with her? K.

I have a feeling this Bran effecting the past will happen just this once or one or two more times. Really think it's sloppy and opens up so much crap. But it was a cool scene.

Also have no idea how they successfully escape with only like a 30s head start.
them taking that many boats during a ceremony that seems to last less than an hour is hilarious, but the show is awful when it comes to numbers. Danny took 8k soldiers from that town and the show displayed as hundreds of thousands.
The support thing seems easy to explain though, she has the support of the sailors that have been under her command but not the lords or whoever was in that "election"
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05-23-2016 , 12:43 PM
that episode rocked, but "hold the door" reveal would have been even sicker if he had been originally commanded to "shut it tight"
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05-23-2016 , 12:46 PM
or maybe just "shut it"

looking at you senator clay davis
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05-23-2016 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Fallen Hero
them taking that many boats during a ceremony that seems to last less than an hour is hilarious, but the show is awful when it comes to numbers. Danny took 8k soldiers from that town and the show displayed as hundreds of thousands.
The support thing seems easy to explain though, she has the support of the sailors that have been under her command but not the lords or whoever was in that "election"
We don't know how long it took
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05-23-2016 , 01:18 PM
Also it can't be *that hard* to steal boats when your whole life revolves around boats.

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05-23-2016 , 01:21 PM
I thought Yara's speech was pretty lame.

At least Euron had a plan that was different and novel. Not sure how much credit we should give the average Iron Islander, but if they knew that Dany was sitting over there with the biggest army in the world and a huge desire to come back to Westoros but with zero ships to get them to Westeros then Euron's plan would have sounded been much, much better.
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05-23-2016 , 01:24 PM
I think the biggest leap of logic in the Iron Islands scene was that this really poor area had an abundance of high quality wood waiting to be cut down to be build a 1,000 ship fleet

(in this time period that would have been a really valuable natural resource yet the Iron Islanders are always portrayed as lacking in resources)
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