SE WW 4.0: The GOCB's vs the WANGZ
02-20-2012
, 03:52 PM
02-20-2012
, 03:54 PM
02-20-2012
, 03:59 PM
02-20-2012
, 04:03 PM
your argument is invalid
fanmail is a very likely villager
I plan to mason with him if he will allow it
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extremely villagery post from vyk, completely changes my mind on him
as for your thoughts on me:
1. Can you point to where I said that the healer shouldn't heal you? All I recall saying was that you were wolfy at that point. Those two things are not mutually exclusive.
2. The whole "this is not a peek" thing should be obvious. I posted a read and didn't want it construed as a peek/fake peek. That is important when people are re-reading things later in the game.
as for your thoughts on me:
1. Can you point to where I said that the healer shouldn't heal you? All I recall saying was that you were wolfy at that point. Those two things are not mutually exclusive.
2. The whole "this is not a peek" thing should be obvious. I posted a read and didn't want it construed as a peek/fake peek. That is important when people are re-reading things later in the game.
welcome to the internet, take off your shoes and leave your butthurt at the door
I think you should stop framing your posts and manipulating your wording in order to push your agenda and undermine the credibility of others at will
it's extremely wolfy of you
I can point out the logical inconsistencies in your post above, but that would be a waste of time, because your statement isn't genuine, it's framed
make all the emotional appeals you want, but 1 thing remains certain
you are not to be trusted
02-20-2012
, 04:04 PM
02-20-2012
, 04:07 PM
alright, read through this pretty fast but made a mental note of who to go back and look at here. here's dyenimator summary thus far
standard opening
mechanics talk mostly. doesn't seem at all correct to make this wager though and we don't know the full wrinkles yet of the role so it's hard to call it strong
right here, this is a post that stood out immediately to me. do not liek this list at all, will elaborate below
big summary where in the past i think dye was not likely to do this at all. in fact i'd wager you can't find him making a post like this in any SE game
listing posts here is pretty good. shows villagery work
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overall i'd say dye gets a slight wolf lean. that list post was what immediately jumped out to me. quite conceivably he was fed a list like that from someone who knows the history of those games well because i would be surprised if he went and dug up all those cases with a poisoner in it
standard opening
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you seem dead set on the fact that its one. if it was just that person, i'd figure that he would've addressed it in the role pm, right after, or not at all and then responded via pm when asked about it
with 2 being poisoned, first off thats a weirdly strong role for one person. secondly, there's a chance the mod was asked by 2 people about it, and instead of replying to both, he just posted it in the thread.
with 2 being poisoned, first off thats a weirdly strong role for one person. secondly, there's a chance the mod was asked by 2 people about it, and instead of replying to both, he just posted it in the thread.
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ok i did some hardc0ar searching and vyk, poisoners aren't guaranteed to be wolf:
Supernatural – villager
Lotr 1 & 2 – both
A tale of horror – both
Mystery 1 – villa one I think, not sure about w0lfs
Hp3/4 - ? (I like how I cant’ remember)
AtoCoA – wolf
Masquerade – villa
WWIII – wolf
Spanish inquisition - neutral
Supernatural – villager
Lotr 1 & 2 – both
A tale of horror – both
Mystery 1 – villa one I think, not sure about w0lfs
Hp3/4 - ? (I like how I cant’ remember)
AtoCoA – wolf
Masquerade – villa
WWIII – wolf
Spanish inquisition - neutral
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Non-poisoner talk!
Presenting strat tips in this game is helpful, yes, but role-neutral. Being a green POG population, SE is ripe to be misled by certain players pushing what they recommend is the best strategy. So when nutshot posts his reminders for villagers or chim provides seer advice, think twice before following it (not that its wrong) and DO NOT clear either.
IRM – I don’t like your initial reaction to the poisoning. It says in the op that it’s a delayed vig. A good villager would want to read all info… right? (ugh, poison talk)
Vixticator – I like your reaction to the chaos. My guess is there are wolves in the thread spewing their thoughts over the poisoner fiasco but you have a few posts that are either joke-y or have a more calm tone to them.
Goofyballer –even if there were 2 wolf poisoners (doubt it), and 2 villager healers, the role wouldn’t be pointless because the villager can always reject healing if he feels that person poisoned is wolfy. And those healers can’t be certain that both poisoners are wolves.
Vixticator – then I come across this post saying the poisoner can’t be a village role, when in the past in mm’s there have been village poisoners. I’m not sure what’s so affirmative here.
An interesting note in all of this, The Rat has not commented on the poisoning nor made any sort of read, two fluffy posts.
IRM – I love your fiery tone response to the vixt vote.
And on the other hand, nofear’s reaction to the goofy vote is more joke-y. along with the awful fakepeek. He hasn’t even posted yet… wtf?
Chim – you were gonna get tebow’ed
Vixticator – good catch on the “in the village” thing. Slightice420, why would you need to mention that in your post? An extra incentive for people to think you’re a villager?
villa: dye
slight villa lean: vixticator, irm (vix moreso)
wolf lean: nofear
Presenting strat tips in this game is helpful, yes, but role-neutral. Being a green POG population, SE is ripe to be misled by certain players pushing what they recommend is the best strategy. So when nutshot posts his reminders for villagers or chim provides seer advice, think twice before following it (not that its wrong) and DO NOT clear either.
IRM – I don’t like your initial reaction to the poisoning. It says in the op that it’s a delayed vig. A good villager would want to read all info… right? (ugh, poison talk)
Vixticator – I like your reaction to the chaos. My guess is there are wolves in the thread spewing their thoughts over the poisoner fiasco but you have a few posts that are either joke-y or have a more calm tone to them.
Goofyballer –even if there were 2 wolf poisoners (doubt it), and 2 villager healers, the role wouldn’t be pointless because the villager can always reject healing if he feels that person poisoned is wolfy. And those healers can’t be certain that both poisoners are wolves.
Vixticator – then I come across this post saying the poisoner can’t be a village role, when in the past in mm’s there have been village poisoners. I’m not sure what’s so affirmative here.
An interesting note in all of this, The Rat has not commented on the poisoning nor made any sort of read, two fluffy posts.
IRM – I love your fiery tone response to the vixt vote.
And on the other hand, nofear’s reaction to the goofy vote is more joke-y. along with the awful fakepeek. He hasn’t even posted yet… wtf?
Chim – you were gonna get tebow’ed
Vixticator – good catch on the “in the village” thing. Slightice420, why would you need to mention that in your post? An extra incentive for people to think you’re a villager?
villa: dye
slight villa lean: vixticator, irm (vix moreso)
wolf lean: nofear
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243 pwn_master – it reminds me too of that first SE game, if that’s what you’re referring to. I think in general, villagers will genuinely angrily fight their lynch. This would be rat’s second game (I’ve done my research!), he was an utr-wolf last time… similar to how he’s been now (and like you said in 259)
245 slighted – weird post saying you’ll be around for awhile. Something to look back on when you’re a wolf and need to excuse why you’re not dead yet. Awry to me that you know you’ll be around for awhile.
264 chilltown – making more sense how? In that he’s clearer in his tone or less spazzy and hard to read?
269 nutshot – try to find wolves, wagon, vote, condense wagons, get info. Feels weird you’d ask this given the fact you had helpful advice for us villagers initially. Who do you think our two main targets should be?
283 aj – we start wagons to find info. Let’s face it, d1 isn’t going off much, and the amount of info on IRM won’t change much from now until evening.
Jesus booker, this is the villageriest I’ve seen you. Keep it up. I’m gonna guess you’re so enthused about the best February Michigan Sports Weekend ever that you’re just extra motivated to put in great work. Agree with not clearing hoya. Until we know the status of the poisoner(s), we maybe can lean one way or the other, but not absolutely clear.
351 AJ – you’re way too worried about a mislynch, and you’re talking in a language that is way too advanced for someone that has never played before. Wagons getting started now probably would lead to less of a chance of a mislynch, ducy?
409 mjw – I usually make it a point to either troll or tunnel (or legi you successfully!) you d1, but the flip flopping of opinions is a good sign. The unsureness, willingness to be flexible is a villagery trait.
villa: Dye, pwn_master
villa lean: booker, mjw
slight villa lean: vixticator, IRM
slight wolf lean: AcTiOnJaCsOn, slighted, nutshot
wolf lean: therat, nofear
245 slighted – weird post saying you’ll be around for awhile. Something to look back on when you’re a wolf and need to excuse why you’re not dead yet. Awry to me that you know you’ll be around for awhile.
264 chilltown – making more sense how? In that he’s clearer in his tone or less spazzy and hard to read?
269 nutshot – try to find wolves, wagon, vote, condense wagons, get info. Feels weird you’d ask this given the fact you had helpful advice for us villagers initially. Who do you think our two main targets should be?
283 aj – we start wagons to find info. Let’s face it, d1 isn’t going off much, and the amount of info on IRM won’t change much from now until evening.
Jesus booker, this is the villageriest I’ve seen you. Keep it up. I’m gonna guess you’re so enthused about the best February Michigan Sports Weekend ever that you’re just extra motivated to put in great work. Agree with not clearing hoya. Until we know the status of the poisoner(s), we maybe can lean one way or the other, but not absolutely clear.
351 AJ – you’re way too worried about a mislynch, and you’re talking in a language that is way too advanced for someone that has never played before. Wagons getting started now probably would lead to less of a chance of a mislynch, ducy?
409 mjw – I usually make it a point to either troll or tunnel (or legi you successfully!) you d1, but the flip flopping of opinions is a good sign. The unsureness, willingness to be flexible is a villagery trait.
villa: Dye, pwn_master
villa lean: booker, mjw
slight villa lean: vixticator, IRM
slight wolf lean: AcTiOnJaCsOn, slighted, nutshot
wolf lean: therat, nofear
overall i'd say dye gets a slight wolf lean. that list post was what immediately jumped out to me. quite conceivably he was fed a list like that from someone who knows the history of those games well because i would be surprised if he went and dug up all those cases with a poisoner in it
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, 04:07 PM
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, 04:09 PM
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