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I'm heading out now, so I leave you all with this. I think this info is more valuable to the village then to the wolves, so I don't mind sharing. Several people have been hinting at me being a seer anyway, so my lifespan in this game wasn't going to be long anyway. If you decide I need to be angeled, I can get another peek tonight since wolves don't have either roleblocker left.

If I am vanillager, then lolwolves for getting leveled

If I am a true full role seer: vayacondios = wolf, dkgojackets = wolf with a tailored write up, and geddy lee = wolf

If I am an insane seer: those 3 are all villagers

If I am a paranoid seer: vaya & dkgo = villas, geddy = wolf

I am of the opinion that the last option is the likeliest. I'm not sure how much I can elaborate on why that is.

here you go atak

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02-22-2012 , 04:45 PM

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Fanmail should out the roles, the thing I'm confused about is why is he saying dkgo was a wolf seer and the mod confirms there was no tailor job? Nothing makes any damn sense.

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02-22-2012 , 04:46 PM

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Phone posting here. In my claim, insane is the same as reverse as u guys call it. I peeked 3 wolves. Reread all my posts since the claim for all clarifications and why's. I did not consider random seer, which would suck.

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02-22-2012 , 04:46 PM

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He was given geddy's full role, and yours too obviously. Even though the write-ups he received are most likely wrong, he probably thinks that Geddy is >rand to be a wolf based on who his player is.

Thats the conclusion i come to at least.

Ok, now am I still confused

I thought that, after seeing the dkgo reveal last night, he came to the conclusion that he is some variety of defective seer. A defective seer isn't told that they're defective; they have to figure it out for themselves, though it is usually revealed in their death writeup.

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02-22-2012 , 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by fanmail

Ok I seem to be correct now

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02-22-2012 , 04:48 PM

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here you go atak

Sure looks like insane means insane there. Insane = reverse, btw. He didn't list a random possibility (though it's always there; you can't ever tell — but I think paranoid and insane fit the flavor of the game better than random would).

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02-22-2012 , 04:49 PM

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Fanmail what roles were revealed for you and what do you think about being wrong on dkgos role?

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02-22-2012 , 04:49 PM

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Well what did you think paranoid seer meant?

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02-22-2012 , 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by vixticator

Fanmail should out the roles, the thing I'm confused about is why is he saying dkgo was a wolf seer and the mod confirms there was no tailor job? Nothing makes any damn sense.

We already lost a seer to modkill for outing a role.

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02-22-2012 , 04:49 PM

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That looks good for both Vaya and Geddy then, I think. dkgo's role was revealed to him as a wolf even night seer when he was a village even night seer. I don't think it's likely that is a randomization. He probably just gets their roles with the GOCB/WANG changed to make it incorrect. So Vaya and Geddy are villagers.

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02-22-2012 , 04:49 PM

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Fanmail what roles were revealed for you and what do you think about being wrong on dkgos role?

Why do you think it's a good idea that he answer this?

He wasn't wrong on dkgo's role, just his affiliation

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02-22-2012 , 04:50 PM

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fanmail, put it this way: Based on the totality of what you know, do you believe Geddy is a bad wagon, a fairly good wagon, or a very good wagon? (One element of that might be how well you know the various characters in the game, but there could be other reasons of course.)

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02-22-2012 , 04:50 PM

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We already lost a seer to modkill for outing a role.

No that was char name. I'm talking about dkgo=wolfseer according to fanmail which we know is not true.

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02-22-2012 , 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by VayaConDios

Why do you think it's a good idea that he answer this?

He wasn't wrong on dkgo's role, just his affiliation

How about this then, given what you learned about their roles which one is most likely a wolf role and which a village role?

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02-22-2012 , 04:55 PM

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No that was char name. I'm talking about dkgo=wolfseer according to fanmail which we know is not true.

Oh, I thought you meant character name.

Role could help but might not, because that could be switched too. But maybe character could give him an indication. If he knows or has researched the players, he might be able to determine — though with Thomas coming up wolf and Zetterberg village, I guess it's pretty hard.

I think he's a lot better qualified to judge what he's getting than we are.

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02-22-2012 , 04:55 PM

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fanmail,

who did you peek each night? did you leave peeks?

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02-22-2012 , 04:55 PM

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Paranoid seer peeks everybody wolf regardless of role. I'm not going to out vaya and geddys full role for obvious resons. I said paranoid seer seems most likely. Read my posts and insanitys posts since the claim for seeing why.

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02-22-2012 , 04:56 PM

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How about this then, given what you learned about their roles which one is most likely a wolf role and which a village role?

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I'm voting geddy, and I recommend it.

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I don't think I should say in case they're villagers. Suffice it to say I wanted to lynch dkgo before vaya yesterday.

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02-22-2012 , 04:57 PM

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Lol, if we have a paranoid seer then we could easily have a naive seer too. (Peeks everyone village.)

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02-22-2012 , 04:57 PM

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schu im coming for you tomorrow. get some sleep buddy.

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i'll help

schu

bump for tuma, we doing this?

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02-22-2012 , 04:58 PM

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has anyone been in a game that has had a paranoid seer? I need to read up

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02-22-2012 , 05:00 PM

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I'm kind of fascinated by everyone's reactions to schu. He was wagoned d1 before Tanner got CFDed to overtake him for 2nd and the top two both turned out to be villas, every time I see someone give a read on him they always still think he's wolfy, and still nobody wants to vote for him.

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02-22-2012 , 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mjw0586

has anyone been in a game that has had a paranoid seer? I need to read up

I have, including a game in which literally everyone in the game was one of the five types of seers but also more normal(ish) situations. But I don't think the experience is important — you just need to reason through the possibilities.

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02-22-2012 , 05:03 PM

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I'm just trying to figure out how things would be revealed to the seer. Are just the wolf/villager parts changed in write-ups? Is it different based on whether they're peeking reverse roles or all wolves?

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02-22-2012 , 05:03 PM

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Thing I remember about the schu wagon is that, as several people pointed out at the time, there were a lot of absent or sketchy-looking people on it. At the time that made the wagon look bad (i.e., made it look like he was a villager), but now that all the other wagons at the time are known to have been village it's no longer clearing imo. And you're right that it's a bit odd that no one has either pushed him hard or cleared him hard since then. (And I don't remember him doing anything either way either.)

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