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chim looks good from his continued tunneling. considering his strong wolf play from last game, i don't think he'd stick his neck out there so far with such strong tunneling towards khaos.

sb... just disappears after providing the case and seeing it progress to a mislynch. plus the question asking is pointless. there's no way khaos could have answered that with something reasonable. "why are you scared of sounding wolfy?" "because i'm... scared?" can't see how steroid boy gets much info out of asking that, and isn't that the point of asking a question? (this is rhetorical btw)

vixticator, dar0 get slight villa leans from me

fanmail is odd... i need to reread him.

Fanmail is wolfing is why he feels odd.

I had TJay nailed early but.. I mean.. almost too wolfy. I dunno on him right now.

Fanmail/Vaya/Slighted/Zdye/Sylar are probably my top 5 atm.

Even though SB was wrong that was exactly what he did as a villager. It was basically identical.

Schu is interesting but I think we were probably v/v/v. His wagon just took off so fast. Plus I feel his response was pretty in character with how I perceive his game after SE3.

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02-21-2012 , 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TJayBird

well there were 3 options at the end of yesterday, and 2 of them are now known villagers. Either we really suck as a village and had it narrowed down to 3 good guys, or the wolves moved the heat off of Schu_22.

Which one do you think is more likely?

schu_22

which wolves do you think moved the heat off schu

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02-21-2012 , 01:24 AM

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is it really possible khaos/RT/schu were v/v/v? i guess D1 is the most prone to mislynches but 3 villa wagons seem improbable

You should have been in SE 3.0. We had v/v/v wagons 3 different times I believe. And yes, it apparently happened again.

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02-21-2012 , 01:25 AM

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chim u still like vaya after the reread that vyk did lumping vaya/khaos as w/w... was proved wrong by khaos flipping villa? is there more to your read than that?

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02-21-2012 , 01:26 AM

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SPK = strong player kill

Wat?? Why the hell would the wolves kill Loretta cause he's a strong player when they have mother****ing seers to worry about?

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02-21-2012 , 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dyenimator

which wolves do you think moved the heat off schu

That's obviously the hard part. Good thing I'm not the only one who is hunting wolves. I'll go reread it now, but if you wanna help please feel free.

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02-21-2012 , 01:27 AM

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whitegoose should be a good starting point today.

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02-21-2012 , 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Slighted

chim u still like vaya after the reread that vyk did lumping vaya/khaos as w/w... was proved wrong by khaos flipping villa? is there more to your read than that?

wait

vyk was a villa

who cares if it was proven wrong

just because it was proven wrong doesn't mean vaya is exempt from any role

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02-21-2012 , 01:28 AM

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Are you serious? We agreed on a lot of stuff yesterday. What changed to make you think I am not a villager?

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02-21-2012 , 01:28 AM

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Wat?? Why the hell would the wolves kill Loretta cause he's a strong player when they have mother****ing seers to worry about?

because that's what's happened in every SE game so far

fake anger from goofy here

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02-21-2012 , 01:28 AM

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wait

vyk was a villa

who cares if it was proven wrong

just because it was proven wrong doesn't mean vaya is exempt from any role

it has nothing to do with vyk flipping villa

but wasnt the whole case based on them talking in wolf chat and posting similar things or something.. man maybe im confused im gonna go dig it up again..

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02-21-2012 , 01:29 AM

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Wat?? Why the hell would the wolves kill Loretta cause he's a strong player when they have mother****ing seers to worry about?

Because thats how mishmashes work. The seers are not anywhere near important in a mishmash as they are in a vanilla. In mishmashes, with so many deaths per day, many of the seers peeks are likely to either die, or the wolves will luckbox the seers themselves.

Also, d1 is nearly ALWAYS a SPK, even in a vanilla.

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02-21-2012 , 01:30 AM

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because that's what's happened in every SE game so far

fake anger from goofy here

lol fake? You said you've played outside of SE before, does this kind of wolfing strategy not blow your mind?

"Well we got some seers out there that might out us and/or be clearing villagers left and right...but **** man, if we leave Loretta alive another night he really might solve the game, can't let that happen"

lol

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02-21-2012 , 01:32 AM

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I mean SPKs are probably especially beneficial for the wolves in these games where we all pretty much suck and players like chim, Hoya, Loretta, etc can be game-changers for the village (or wolves, a la chim in 3.0)

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02-21-2012 , 01:32 AM

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Also, d1 is nearly ALWAYS a SPK, even in a vanilla.

Does that need a "*in SE" at the end? In every vanilla game I've ever played d1 (and d2, and d3, and dX until the seer is dead) is a seer hunt.

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02-21-2012 , 01:33 AM

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goofy spewing

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02-21-2012 , 01:33 AM

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its super standard to kill strong players early.. how exactly do you think the wolves would know who the seers are to kill this early? they can take an awful low percentage chance at guesing who the seer is after 1 day.. or kill a strong player that may help the village.. who you might not be able to kill later if you start peeking village power roles...

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02-21-2012 , 01:35 AM

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Does that need a "*in SE" at the end? In every vanilla game I've ever played d1 (and d2, and d3, and dX until the seer is dead) is a seer hunt.

Loretta was killed n1 in SE 3.0. It was definitely a SPK.

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02-21-2012 , 01:36 AM

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***ITEM OF NOTE***

3:17

vaya, having just finished the Harry Potter 4 game, gives an unprompted, precise and very detailed description of dye's wolf game in HP4, despite the fact that vaya was a villager, the game had over 100 players, went on for 2 weeks, and dye was out early

50 minutes pass with 0 posts by khaos4k and vaya

wolfchat is active and several w00fs are under pressure, including khaos4k who is showing all signs of a new wolf

*khaos4k receives instruction from wolfchat*

4:07

khaos4k provides an obvious mechanic post that's already been hinted upon, but pushed aside b/c of the general impossibility to coordinate the village healers during the night (without any guarantee of there being more than 1)

4:08

vaya immediately shows up in the thread in order to validate khaos4k's contrived mechanics post by using it as leverage to deflate the pressure on khaos4k

10 minutes pass

4:18

vaya goes back into passive commentator mode and blends right back in

*no trace of khaos4k*

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this was vyk's case on khaos... it seems heavily tilted in his reactions with vaya.. since khaos flips villa how do you guys read this convo now..

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02-21-2012 , 01:37 AM

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how exactly do you think the wolves would know who the seers are to kill this early?

Reading posts and looking for peeks?

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Loretta was killed n1 in SE 3.0. It was definitely a SPK.

Ok, apparently this is how things work in SE. I now consider myself more educated on the subject and your guys' strange methods to approaching this game. Apologies for the derail.

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02-21-2012 , 01:38 AM

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lol goofy

maybe the wolves should have consulted their "Seers in the SE 4.0 Game" list before just SPKing Loretta. idiots.

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02-21-2012 , 01:38 AM

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Are you ****ing kidding me...you have been posting several times during the day elsewhere and have been on and posting for like 2 hours, the least you could have done is skim

Most people in this game keep closer tabs on my life than you do. But to illuminate the situation, I had a finance midterm this afternoon, all-nighter before, took 3 hours to finish. Then I went to the casino and played poker. Yeah, "skimming" 1500 posts on my phone would've done a lot of good.

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02-21-2012 , 01:39 AM

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Does that need a "*in SE" at the end? In every vanilla game I've ever played d1 (and d2, and d3, and dX until the seer is dead) is a seer hunt.

No, this is pretty standard on POG, from the games I've played, especially if Soah is playing.

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02-21-2012 , 01:40 AM

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This is a good argument. Without him having wolfed with you, it is perfectly consistent with a villager's view, but you're right that with more specific information he should tend to approach it differently.

slighted

goofy's still probably a wolf, but obviously that's not happening today.

Starting to bandwagon slighted

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slighted Lets see how this goes

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schu_22 cause i dont know why the other guy is getting votes

This makes Chill look legit

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ATTENTION VILLAGE: WHETHER I LIVE OR DIE, RICHARD TANNER IS A WOLF

Now here's a read I believe in. He has about 40 posts. I don't want to overstate this, but:

1. Many are mechanics posts that can be made in either role.

2. The rest are empty posts.

3. He has not made ONE read on a player, ANYWHERE, in this game. Not one.

4. He jumped on the etats wagon that I started, but I'm getting more and more confident that that wagon sucks. I think I just got straight sponged.

I encourage everyone to go read his posts. Run an in-thread advanced search for posts by hi screenname, or go to the loby, click on the post count of this thread, and then click on the number of posts made by him. Read all of them. Click through when you see elipses and want to know all of what he said.

richard tanner

richard tanner

richard tanner

!!!

Very confident for a guy that was wrong?

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Richard Tanner

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I pointed him out earlier when he made the single wolfiest post in the entire game

richard t

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hoya i just did a reread and i completely agree re: Richard Tanner

i also reread how the schu wagon developed and I don't understand at all how vyk read the same thing a bunch of other people had already read, and these other people somehow conclude schu is a wolf. the whole thing is just bizarre.

Turned out to be a villager

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khaos

make you happy little buddy? you wanna be friends now? or keep up your failed tunneling that you do EVERY GAME we're in together.. you've peeked me 1 time wolf.. and you've been wrong on your reads every other time...

Don't understand the second half of this post. Explanation Slighted?

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khaos4k:

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I'm changing my vote to myself. Why? Cause **** you

Etats360

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khaos4k

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slighted

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richard tanner

note how many pogstars are voting on this one

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Originally Posted by BASaint

sounds like something a total noob would do in any role to me

richard tanner

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i forgot who mentioned dye's list but here it is post ]488:

villa: Dye, pwn_master
villa lean: booker, mjw
slight villa lean: vixticator, IRM
slight wolf lean: AcTiOnJaCsOn, slighted, nutshot
wolf lean: therat, nofear

lol

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Random new bandwagon

Someone else can help me analyze these posts, but I started on page 13 and tried to quote anything that looked shady. Alot of fishy posting going on.

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02-21-2012 , 01:40 AM

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Lol goofy. You're so dense that there's no way you can even be leveling as a wolf here. Major villa points for the bawler in this exchange. How do you not understand the logic in killing a strong player when there's literally nothing else to go on? Loretta was =rand to everyone else to turn up seer, plus they killed a strong player in the bargain. What's not to get?

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