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02-20-2012 , 12:38 PM
Don't think wagons should be started yet, since it may lead to a mis lynch. However, it doesn't appear that we've heard from g bebe , Richard tanner, whitegoose or basaint. If some of that is incorrect i apologize, on my phone for most of the day.Seems a little wolfy to have not said anything. Would like to hear from then and the couple others who literally have done nothing
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02-20-2012 , 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Booker Woodfox
Ok, so healing may or may not be a day action, but if the victim isn't healed by the following night they die. Got it. Not an unusual mechanic from what I've heard but still kinda strange. Especially as a n0 action.

With that said, back to work for now. Stupid non-holiday holidays.
Healing pretty clearly seems to be a night action by that description.
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02-20-2012 , 12:39 PM
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02-20-2012 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by AcTiOnJaCsOn
Don't think wagons should be started yet, but it doesn't appear that we've heard from g bebe , Richard tanner, or basaint. If some of that is incorrect i apologize, on my phone for most of the day.Seems a little wolfy to have not said anything. Would like to hear from then and the couple others who literally have done nothing
There's actually quite a few people who haven't posted at all. I'm giving action a slight villa lean for his posting so far.
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02-20-2012 , 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by AcTiOnJaCsOn
Don't think wagons should be started yet, but it doesn't appear that we've heard from g bebe , Richard tanner, or basaint. If some of that is incorrect i apologize, on my phone for most of the day.Seems a little wolfy to have not said anything. Would like to hear from then and the couple others who literally have done nothing
Lolwut, pretty sure all 3 have posted. Why did you pick them out of all people when there are legitimately a bunch of people who have not posted?
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02-20-2012 , 12:46 PM
Who WANGZ?
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02-20-2012 , 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by chim17
I'll go so far as to say we should heal Hoya and clear him as non wolf for the time being.

The poisons here are either villager, which is a random shot (no villa would poison Hoya). Neutral, which is basically random and has more reason to poison Hoya. Or wolf, which is not random, and would poison Hoya.

Pure odds make him the better heal, and I want to repeat today we should absolutely heal. Later we maybe shouldn't -- but when the only poisons are a random villager decision or a wolf decision healing is clearly right. Heal Hoya, don't lynch for near future.
despite disagreeing on earlier points.. this is 100% correct in my opinion.. neutral wants to stay hidden so wants to eliminate strong players early.. wolves are exactly the same.. no way was hoya poisoned by the village.

hoya will work itself out with whether or not the wolves kill him.
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02-20-2012 , 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Pwn_Master
Lolwut, pretty sure all 3 have posted. Why did you pick them out of all people when there are legitimately a bunch of people who have not posted?
g-bebe has 0 posts, RT has 1 now, basaint has a few.
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02-20-2012 , 12:49 PM
fanmail, you WANG?
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02-20-2012 , 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by fanmail
g-bebe has 0 posts, RT has 1 now, basaint has a few.
My bad, was thinking of nutshot, both he and g-bebe are NY homers and think they had the same avatar for awhile.
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02-20-2012 , 12:52 PM
booker lookin villa to me, odd since he always comes across as uber wolfy
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02-20-2012 , 12:52 PM
experillamus don cherry

vixt is a liability to the village whether he's wolfin or villagin. he's always all ove the place and last game the wolves left him alive b/c he was wreckin the village.

lol aCtIoNjAcSoN

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Don't think wagons should be started yet, since it may lead to a mis lynch. However, it doesn't appear that we've heard from g bebe , Richard tanner, whitegoose or basaint. If some of that is incorrect i apologize, on my phone for most of the day.Seems a little wolfy to have not said anything. Would like to hear from then and the couple others who literally have done nothing
dont think wagons should be started, lists three random names for not posting in the first 10 hours of gametime, when 19 people have <5 posts. #cmonson
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02-20-2012 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Etats360
fanmail, you WANG?
no, you?
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02-20-2012 , 12:53 PM
Doing some quick re-reads of the thread to see if anything catches my eye. Vaya aggressively questioning vyk was interesting.

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Originally Posted by VayaConDios
vyk,

are you a wolf?
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Originally Posted by VayaConDios
Yeah, if there's a village poisoner then they likely wouldn't have to poison anyone n1. Nor do I think they would target hoya or vyk n0.
Agree. villa points.

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Originally Posted by vixticator
Strong players who have not been poisoned immediately move to wolf leaning here imo.
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Originally Posted by VayaConDios
atak imo
In reply to vix. Vix's point is pretty dumb. I'm not sure if vaya is agreeing with vix here or just paying him lip service.

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Originally Posted by VayaConDios
I guess your posts make sense if you believe this. I think you're misreading the mod's post though. I don't think it meant to tell us that there is exactly one poisoner and one healer.
I actually agree with Vaya here. I'm not sure why vyk is so hung up on one poisoner/one healer. He says it was in the OP. I don't see it.

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Originally Posted by VayaConDios
vyk,

do you think you should be healed?
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Originally Posted by VayaConDios
Well you've made over 30 posts already, and in none of them have you said "hey I'm a villager, please heal me."
dislike.
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Originally Posted by VayaConDios
Thanks, I try
snarky. not a fan.

Rest isn't really worth looking at. his aggressive questioning of vyk gives me a slight wolf lean, but he makes some good points and he makes a good catch regarding vyk's claim that OP says 1 poisoner, 1 healer. I don't see anything along those lines. He's also right about it being unlikely a (good) villa poisoning either of those two. But that assumes they're good. We still have hotwings in this game after all.

I'm neutral/very slight wolf lean at the moment.
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02-20-2012 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by fanmail
no, you?
No, I'm not a russian or swede
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02-20-2012 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Etats360
No, I'm not a russian or swede
Is this your first game of ww?
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02-20-2012 , 12:55 PM
booker
vyk
cphoya
chilldonk


nofear

nofear
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02-20-2012 , 12:55 PM
That's a very russian post by old man Colin
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02-20-2012 , 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by fanmail
Is this your first game of ww?
yes, I'm sort of clueless tbh
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02-20-2012 , 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Steroid Boy
experillamus don cherry

vixt is a liability to the village whether he's wolfin or villagin. he's always all ove the place and last game the wolves left him alive b/c he was wreckin the village.

lol aCtIoNjAcSoN



dont think wagons should be started, lists three random names for not posting in the first 10 hours of gametime, when 19 people have <5 posts. #cmonson
Implying that someone should get got regardless of whether he is a villager or wolf is wolfy. And if you think that is a legit reason, why are you coming at vix and not hotwanggzzzzzzz?
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02-20-2012 , 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by zdye724
Unless they have to poison one wolf and one villa each night?
jumps right in with this... strange thought, but I think a bit villagery

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Originally Posted by zdye724
That's why I mentioned the one wolf/one villa poisoning. It would make an interesting thunderdome each day, if a villager has to decide which one to heal.

Either that or there are two poisoners, one on each team.
still focusing on the wolf/villa angle

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Originally Posted by zdye724
Well ok vyk, do you have any enemies? Anyone who has threatened you in the past with poisoning?
pretty worthless post here

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Originally Posted by zdye724
Well, it's highly unlikely that we'll be able to figure out the mechanics of the poisoning until tomorrow at the absolute earliest, prolly not til d3.

Vyk, there is no evidence in the mod's explanation that there must be only one poisoner/healer. It was written from the viewpoint of a question from a single person, with the answer given specifically to that person. If there are two poisoners, there pretty much have to be two healers in the game.
dragging out mechanics discussions

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Originally Posted by zdye724
Feigning outrage? Did you poison vyk?
again, pretty worthless post

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Originally Posted by zdye724
I guess a SK team with 2 poisoning every other night is possible, too...basically we'll have no clue what's going on until the death writeups tomorrow
more poisoning talk

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Originally Posted by zdye724
Aspoker, why is discussing the poisoning wolfy? Is it because Chim said so? There really isn't much else to go off of today IMO
now he's talking about talking about the poisoning!

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Originally Posted by zdye724
I disagree. We know who and how many targets there were. The healer(s) is going to have to make a decision tonight to potentially save two very strong players. This needs to be discussed IMO.

As for creating noise, is it any less relevant than Goofy/nutshot's interaction? Or all these posts relating to the HP4 game?

One final point, if talking about it allows wolves the freedom to blend in, then doesn't the same freedom exist in telling people not to talk about it?
this is more fluff than content

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Originally Posted by zdye724
Agreed. I don't think vyk should be saved, personally. I found his entrance into the thread, subsequent "discovery" of the poisoning, then using up 30+ posts to rant and rave to be very wolf-like. If I was poisoned on n0, i'd be more depressed than outraged.
tunneling hard, you should be able to understand someone being upset about being poisoned this early in the game

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Originally Posted by zdye724
KidColin's latest post is what I was referring to when I said this, just for the record.

Any non-turbo evidence of Vyk getting upset? Only thing I really remember from him is when he was outted as a wolf in 3.0, and he didn't seem upset at all. I think it's rather counter-productive to respond the way he did here--he needs a village healer to save him, therefore he needs to prove his worth to the village.
asking for others to do the work for him

zdye

I could see him being a SK or a wolf
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02-20-2012 , 12:59 PM
mjw, you lidstrom?
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02-20-2012 , 01:01 PM
Zdye does feel very different than he was last game when he was a villager. Early watch list for sure.
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02-20-2012 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Etats360
That's a very russian post by old man Colin
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Originally Posted by Etats360
yes, I'm sort of clueless tbh


note that I'm not a huge fan of big quote bomb re-reads, as if you make them long enough, it just makes it look like you're doing work and you don't really have to say anything because no one will read them. But it's day 1 and we don't have much to go on and a re-read is pretty quick and easy over 4 pages.

mjw's, for example, is a good, concise re-read.
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02-20-2012 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Pwn_Master
Implying that someone should get got regardless of whether he is a villager or wolf is wolfy. And if you think that is a legit reason, why are you coming at vix and not hotwanggzzzzzzz?
i agree that this is odd.. and i'd like to know what the "last game" was that he is talking about.. last se game vyk was a wolf so of course we left him alive..

seems rather spazzy.
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