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do you think hoya or vyk convince the wolf team to poison them knowing they have a healer in order to clear themselves? keep in mind wolves have had chat starting at their role pm according to the OP..

That's absurd fps I'm going to assume no until given strong reason to believe otherwise. Healer is obv a villager role the wolves would never poison one of their own and gamble on the save. But if they did it would be because Hoya is a wolf which is why I said to heal vyk 100% of the time. Also I may have peeked vyk villa.

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02-20-2012 , 02:12 AM

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you must be confusing this game for some meta FPS type of capable **** that only gets pulled by the POG higher ups amongst their in game circle jerks

this isn't POG

you dont think hoya would tell the wolves to do that??

the KEY HERE IS: if both are healed then one is >>>>rand to be a wolf, as both are decently strong players and i cant see the wolves healing one in an FPS attempt.. so if both are alive they are very close to NEVER v/v

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02-20-2012 , 02:12 AM

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i think it could be two neutral poisoners and one gocb healer and one wangz healer.

yea i was just gonna post this. seems like the most likely scenario, but holy **** how imbalanced that would be in favor of the wolves if it were the case

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02-20-2012 , 02:12 AM

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why would you poison hotwings when he's going to be lynched anyway since he's a clown?

-- sylar, how much WW experience do you have?

might as well get this in now also...

GOOFYBALLER

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02-20-2012 , 02:12 AM

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Seems like not poisoning hotwangz is a gigantic fail though.

0% chance that the poisoner is a village role

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02-20-2012 , 02:13 AM

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Strong players who have not been poisoned immediately move to wolf leaning here imo.

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I would immediately bump up the likes of chim, loretta, and mjw up a percentage point or 2

You guys have to be joking

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Unless they have to poison one wolf and one villa each night?

No way it's that complicated

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02-20-2012 , 02:13 AM

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villager here, let the loling at wangzzz commence

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02-20-2012 , 02:13 AM

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it could be a neutral Serial Killer type role potentially

mod said there would be epic ***EVENTS*** though, so I'm assuming there would be day kills

A neutral being a poisoner seems like a legit possibility. How many neutrals are there usually in a game this size, 2 or 3? Doubt one of one or two neutrals would be a poisoner, but if it is more like 3 or 4 then it could make sense.

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02-20-2012 , 02:14 AM

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you dont think hoya would tell the wolves to do that??

you're thinking like 5 days in advance

hoya never makes endgame, so he wants to kill as many villagers as possible when he's a wolf, because he always gets halfway ruled for being a strong player

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02-20-2012 , 02:14 AM

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02-20-2012 , 02:15 AM

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last SE game the neutral was a day serial killer with certain immunities to night actions such as vig attempts until a certain point in the game (ex: final 12)

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02-20-2012 , 02:16 AM

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0% chance that the poisoner is a village role

You really think so? That leaves two possibilities:
1. village can't counter all the wolf poisons, so it's basically just an extra NK for the wolves that is announced a day ahead of time
2. village can counter the wolf poisons, making the role......kinda pointless

Neither seems that likely to me. Although I haven't played any games before w/ this kind of role, if there's a precedent for it somewhere.

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02-20-2012 , 02:16 AM

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most likely there is one on each team... it would be pro village in my mind to poison someone n0 if you think you are th only poisoner, it forces them to put in work on d1 and not be utr.. which is why the targets are very odd.. cphoya is a super strong pogger and vyk is a pretty strong player as well, who can be under the radar some and wolfy.. i would be willing to bet the wolves poisoned cphoya and the village poisoned vyk..

unless there is some fancy play

i'd wager the poisoner(s?) are newish players for this reason.

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02-20-2012 , 02:16 AM

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in my best estimation from previous experience, there's porobably

1 poisoner with 2 poisons

1 healer with 1 heal

where are the examples of this?

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im pretty sure in save our souls both teams had a poisoner and a healer? i'll double check the other games but im pretty sure it could happen.. i agree though in terms of fps.. this plan is much more likely hoya than vyk

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02-20-2012 , 02:17 AM

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You guys have to be joking

if the poisoner is a wolf role, I'm 100% serious

I'm like the 7th or 8th person down in terms of ww experience on this player list

no way I should ever be among the 2 that get targeted for death on n0, unless several of the players ahead of me are already on the wolf team together

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02-20-2012 , 02:17 AM

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in for the village. lets kill us some red wangzzzzzzz

Don't let the beautiful ladies distract you. Troll mod trolling the best team in the NHL this year AINEC. lol rangers, lol nucks, lol bruins

We hunting some wolves, wangs, wangzzzz, heartless euros aka the caps, etc....

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02-20-2012 , 02:18 AM

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-- sylar, how much WW experience do you have?

not much, but i read/skimmed/followed the other two SE WWs.

i have a ton of live mafia experience from college though. none of those were mishmash obv.

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02-20-2012 , 02:18 AM

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i'd wager the poisoner(s?) are newish players for this reason.

absolutely no correlation that I can see

we don't even know if the poisoner is a neutral or wolf role yet

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02-20-2012 , 02:18 AM

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Unless they have to poison one wolf and one villa each night?

TMI?

Seems lol unlikely that this is a role though.

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02-20-2012 , 02:19 AM

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That's why I mentioned the one wolf/one villa poisoning. It would make an interesting thunderdome each day, if a villager has to decide which one to heal.

Either that or there are two poisoners, one on each team.

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02-20-2012 , 02:19 AM

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unless several of the players ahead of me are already on the wolf team together

...and now consider the likelihood that this is the case given random distribution of players.

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02-20-2012 , 02:19 AM

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yeah but your a SE talent.. you have to eliminate the primary pog players in that list in the case we have an only SE poisoner..

and in no way do i believe that there is a poisoner with 2 targets, nor do i believe that there isnt a village poisoner i there is a wolf poisoner.. what kind of role would we get to balance out the idea of ONLY a wolf poisoner..

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02-20-2012 , 02:19 AM

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i would say there is almost no chance the poisoner is wolf. it's either villa or neutral. more likely neutral than villa obv. i mean, if we have 1 villa poisoner and 1 wolf poisoner and 1 healer on each side, advantage wolves huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge since that's basically a freeroll for the wolves to get an additional kill

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02-20-2012 , 02:21 AM

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what it is, what it is

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02-20-2012 , 02:22 AM

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absolutely no correlation that I can see

we don't even know if the poisoner is a neutral or wolf role yet

you seem dead set on the fact that its one. if it was just that person, i'd figure that he would've addressed it in the role pm, right after, or not at all and then responded via pm when asked about it

with 2 being poisoned, first off thats a weirdly strong role for one person. secondly, there's a chance the mod was asked by 2 people about it, and instead of replying to both, he just posted it in the thread.

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