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Originally Posted by Pwn_Master
Geoff, I assumed you had good intentions, so my assumptions about your beliefs were correct. The assumption I may have wrong is that you agree with your brother that both sides suck so you don't want any part of our current political system.
I think, the difference between you and me, is that I believe the evidence firmly shows its too late, "IT" is already happening. If we are lucky enough to have four (or eight) years without a major economic crisis, war, national security threat, etc. then "IT" will be bad but manageable. But if there is a shock then things can get moving and entrenched very quickly, and it will be too late then for any of us to object because no one will care about our voices when they have more visceral concerns. So to me, its now or never.
I do agree with Thayer when he says the two-party system is a flawed one. I also, however, think that it's unreasonable to expect a revolution and a reset of said system, so when looking for answers we should look for them within the realm of the universe we exist in.
On your second point, idk, I guess I'm just an optimist, which is something I never thought would say. But I could totally foresee a scenario where in four years the worst things people have to say about Trump's presidency, aside from the few horrendous quotes which are a near guarantee, are some policy decisions that both sides disagree on. I would be pretty surprised if the more extreme stuff you mentioned- war, major economic crisis, etc- happens. Maybe that's ignorance idk, open to being wrong about that, hopeful I'm not though.
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Originally Posted by GusJohnsonGOAT
This is quite the wishful thinking. Think about how many morons are in this country, and it's exactly how Trump got elected.
Maybe, but it's less likely to happen if the "smart" keep talking about how impossible reason & compromise are bc of how stupid the other side is. That's for sure.