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this seems like a dumb point people are making. if trump knew he needed to really rock the vote in northern california to win then he would have done so like he did in penn, wis, mich, etc

you play to score more points not gain more yards. hillarys campaign was awful at this

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11-09-2016 , 01:42 PM

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Everyone who has ever had meaningful experience in any field has had bad experience, missteps, mistakes, and made decisions that had bad results and were entirely avoidable. Trump has had these, Obama has had these, and every other businessperson and politician has had these. Hillary's were greeted with more hatred because of her personality and the fact that she was in the spotlight for about three decades.

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11-09-2016 , 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dkgojackets

This. If people in upstate NY and rural California thought their vote counted the turn out would have been different.

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11-09-2016 , 01:47 PM

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What was she supposed to do other than play prevent? Her record is atrocious, she inspires no hope love or joy from anyone including her family and friends, and is overall a crappy candidate and person. Kinda hard to actively campaign when you have nothing to offer but experience and that experience is mostly you being terrible.

It's amazing how many people want to blame voters and not the Democrats and the Democratic party. they elected a historically hated candidate.

back in 08 she got ****ing curb stomped by a no name 1 term senator. sure he had energy and the young vote, but she shouldn't have gotten curb stomped that ****ing hard with her experience.

they throw the ONE candidate who could lose to Trump, and whats more, THEY WANTED HRC to have that matchup.

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11-09-2016 , 01:53 PM

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Martin Shkreli Leaks Unreleased Wu-Tang Music Following Donald Trump Victory

silver lining!

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11-09-2016 , 01:54 PM

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Obama absolutely did not "curb stomp" her in the '08 primaries

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11-09-2016 , 01:56 PM

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Obama absolutely did not "curb stomp" her in the '08 primaries

you're responding to jetto

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11-09-2016 , 02:02 PM

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Nah, people always want CHANGE and there is no possible way to sell Hillary as anything other than "hey we just recovered from economic catastrophe to be the most prosperous nation in history, let's keep it going with some tweaks to share the wealth more equally" The lesson learned is that even if the DOW is at 30,000 in 2020 the Dems still have a shot if they can promise to CHANGE some things.

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11-09-2016 , 02:08 PM

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Can't wait till KANYE/Beyonce 2020 curbstomping Trump

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11-09-2016 , 02:15 PM

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speaks a bit to hoaya's point that the democrats are terrible at playing politics

also he appointed james comey

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11-09-2016 , 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ShimmyBasis

So what can we expect in Trump's first year in office?

-AHA gone
-NAFTA amended
-At least 1 super-conservative SC justice appointed
-Massive spending cuts
-Tax breaks for the rich
-Global warming expedited
-Anti-vaxxers rejoicing
-Wall builders making it rain
-Putin Swagging

Not massive spending cuts. Don't get the anti vaxer thing at all. He's more likely to make vaccinations mandatory.

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11-09-2016 , 02:19 PM

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My wife's biggest concern is what will happen to Michelle's garden and that she hopes Melania will take good care of it. WOMEN.

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11-09-2016 , 02:20 PM

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The woman at the door to the polls made me cover up my Kanye 2020 shirt, "even though it's a joke."

Looked a little shook when I told her it was less of a joke than that wack ass blouse she was wearing.

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11-09-2016 , 02:21 PM

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Not massive spending cuts. Don't get the anti vaxer thing at all. He's more likely to make vaccinations mandatory.

oh.. for sure

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11-09-2016 , 02:22 PM

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i think Obama was a good prez, probably had a **** ton on his plate but Im wondering if he tried his absolute ****ing hardest to group the dems up and go out as one force, I thik he dis a very poor job while bernie and clinton were going through a tough race against each other. I also think Biden coul dhave done more even though he had nice things to say about bernie.

Dem party couldn't rally and the blame falls on Obama, Biden and def the DNC.

Personally felt this was the democrats seat to lose once republicans gave TRUMP the nod

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11-09-2016 , 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dkgojackets

didnt they have all kinds of other stuff to vote for in northern ny too? and i thought republicans were the more reliable voters. why are they the only ones staying home if the state is going 60-40 dem?

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11-09-2016 , 02:23 PM

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lol it was totally economic anxiety that made mr brexit win. definitely not the racism.

The facts disagree with you. The Democrats nominated a historically terrible candidate. But keep blaming it on the RAYCISTS.

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11-09-2016 , 02:43 PM

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I'm making it 50/50 that Trump either rejoins the Democrat party within two years or goes independent.

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11-09-2016 , 02:45 PM

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yeah **** comey now and forever

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11-09-2016 , 02:54 PM

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Stocks super resilient after bottoming around the time iof mass panic last night.

However, now US treasuries are getting fisted. Wonder what is driving this move?

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11-09-2016 , 02:56 PM

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I have no idea what is going on in different states ballots, just saying in general it is silly to make a point based on a result that neither party cared about achieving

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11-09-2016 , 02:57 PM

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speaks a bit to hoaya's point that the democrats are terrible at playing politics

also he appointed james comey

this could not be more wrong

he was a bad President, and an amazing politician.

republicans flourished under him because they dominated races when he wasn't on the ballot (midterms, special elections, etc.)

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11-09-2016 , 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by fanmail

Stocks super resilient after bottoming around the time iof mass panic last night.

However, now US treasuries are getting fisted. Wonder what is driving this move?

China is liquidating at a ridiculous rate right now.

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11-09-2016 , 03:05 PM

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Brag: Collected my Trump vs JEB! POTUS only bet booked 18 months ago with a friend who never, ever, loses a bet. $100

Imagine all the money bet on Hillary at 90+%, lol WOATary

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11-09-2016 , 03:05 PM

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Obama gathered so much power into the arms of the Executive - unprecedented in the history of the country - that he has now set the stage for calamity at the hands of Trump

We have a domestic spying apparatus with zero Congressional oversight (in fact they are/were spying on Congress), we have DOJ going after reporters, we have global wars without Congressional authorization, and we have effectively legislation being passed that is bypassing Congress in the form of Executive Orders (some of which were thankfully struck down by SCOTUS as unconstitutional)

It is terrifying what Trump can do if he were to exert the same power as Obama

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