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Oh look, you made your ****ty point. Was it as satisfying as you dreamed it would be?
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
It's not ****ing semantics. Terrorism is one of, if not the, political issue of our time. It's important that we don't allow it to consume us. Bastardizing the definition to fit your political opponents is a road you do not want to go down.
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Originally Posted by ludacris
Are you guys really gonna get Semantikes'd like this?
we got wookie busting out US Law definitions, i.e. the very thing under dispute, and ikes is the one relying on semantics?
Ikes is 100% right. Definitions matter, especially when those very definitions in US Law can be highly overreaching and invasive, such as in the Hammonds' case. Are the Black Bloc terrorists (don't let the name fool you, this is mainly spoiled white kids)? New Black Panthers? Hell, how close were the Wisconsin protestors to tipping the scales into terrorism? Obviously seems absurd now, but give it time.
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Originally Posted by PocketChads
It's just weird to me when you and KC talk about "the general twitter vibe" like it's a gotcha. I see the same **** and it looks to me like it's a lazy point about urban police violence, not an actual gleeful bloodlust.
Either way, it's just us arguing about our feels. And it seems so out of place on 2p2. Even if you have a concrete example of bloodlust, seeing it as this widespread problem to me seems as dumb as spending time reading fatlogic or something. Just seeing a prevelance that isn't there because you chose to spend time around mouthbreathers being mouthbreathers.
This is a pretty big reduction of what I was saying. My point never relied on the bloodlust. My point is the overwhelming majority of media wants very much for this to be a case of domestic terrorism, and focus solely on that, and that is very much due to the fact that these are right wing white dudes with guns. And plenty of those outlets, and plenty of the reactions to such writings, while I wouldn't classify it as bloodlust, are very much lamenting the fact that the state is taking a wait and see approach, again, because these are republicans with guns.
It's a pretty well devised system, where change is all but impossible, because the framework for debate is always set in advance, and will always be steered in that direction. And not by the man, by us. It's on autopilot. C'est la vie, I suppose.