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01-04-2016 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by THAY3R
DIDS feels that way, and yeah the general vibe on the twitter verse is "How unfair that these idiots aren't shot" which seems perverse to me
So it's still more important to you to find someone's reaction to tut-tut at than it is to think about what the right thing might be to do here. Keep ****ing that chicken.
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01-04-2016 , 04:05 PM
What is the right thing to do here?
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01-04-2016 , 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cannabusto
To be fair, Obama's civil liberties record is pretty goddamn atrocious.
Yes, it absolutely is, and it's one of, it not THE, biggest hangups I have about his presidency.
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01-04-2016 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Zimmer4141
I love how people (OK mostly Ikes) are saying this is a "peaceful" protest.

They are occupying a building that does not belong to any of them with an arsenal of weapons and one of them said "we are prepared to use lethal force"
Yeah you don't use words like "kill or be killed" and make goodbye videos to your family saying you love them if you're going to a peaceful protest
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01-04-2016 , 04:39 PM
OWS wasn't armed and didn't attempt to permanently take over publicly owned facilities. If OWS and BLM are "bad", how can these mouth breathers be looked at any differently?
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01-04-2016 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by THAY3R
What is the right thing to do here?
Ignore them completely because it's a meaningless abandoned building in literally the middle of nowhere.
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01-04-2016 , 04:49 PM
Oh, I thought it was to call conservatives racists while implying the state should shoot these idiots and then criticize people for pointing out how weird that stance is
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01-04-2016 , 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by THAY3R
Oh, I thought it was to call conservatives racists while implying the state should shoot these idiots and then criticize people for pointing out how weird that stance is
The conservative response to this has been undeniably racist. I don't think the building should be droned but I do think the state would be justified in using deadly force to remove them from a building they don't have the right to be in if they attempt to use their guns.

Until then they should be trying to negotiate a conclusion to this and the people should absolutely be arrested for breaking the law.
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01-04-2016 , 04:59 PM
Send in robot tanks that park outside which do nothing but play the audio narration of Dreams of My Father at 150 decibels until they leave.
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01-04-2016 , 05:00 PM
How would you describe the liberal response to this?
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01-04-2016 , 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
So you think that if a bunch of armed Muslims decided to protest the treatment of Gitmo prisoners by taking over some federally-owned buildings then the government response would be calm and measured? Uh, OK.
I'm fairly certain if they camped out at some unoccupied shack in the high deserts of Nevada in the dead of winter they would not be mowed down by the feds.
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01-04-2016 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by THAY3R
How would you describe the liberal response to this?
The only one I've really frequently come across is "it's unreal that police/army is doing nothing about this. If they were black or Muslims you know it'd be way different"

You seem to interpret that as a call for death squad being sent to Oregon when all it is is a wish that the state would show this kind of hesitation to everyone.

Or you just have some dumb liberal friends.
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01-04-2016 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by kidcolin
I'm fairly certain if they camped out at some unoccupied shack in the high deserts of Nevada in the dead of winter they would not be mowed down by the feds.
Hey as long as you're fairly certain
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01-04-2016 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Bdidd
OWS wasn't armed and didn't attempt to permanently take over publicly owned facilities. If OWS and BLM are "bad", how can these mouth breathers be looked at any differently?
1) Yes they did take over public facilities
2) There's quite a bit of space between 'bad' and 'terrorist'
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01-04-2016 , 05:20 PM
Well I mean I have about the same authority on this as you do Keed. Feel free to argue otherwise. The state is typically willing to let stuff like this slide for a bit given there's no real threat of violence or damage.

Clark insistence on equating a bunch of people camping in no man's land in the dead of winter to urban rioting is baffling. If these peckerwoods tried this at UCLA or an IRS building, they'd all be dead or arrested right now. Or if they just protested in downtown Salem by the state house and began rioting, setting cars on fire, etc etc, they'd be met with a swiftness.

And guess what.. If and when the state does decide enough is enough, and are met with resistance, then this will likely devolve into another Ruby Ridge or Waco. And in those scenarios, crackers end up dead.
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01-04-2016 , 05:24 PM
Dunno if anyone's mentioned it, but the way the government is choosing to manipulate this group of patriot, illiterate, militia slobs is just like they recently do with foreign terrorists, like considering the side-effects of engaging Jihadis. Nice legacy, camo-fetished freaks
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01-04-2016 , 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
The only one I've really frequently come across is "it's unreal that police/army is doing nothing about this. If they were black or Muslims you know it'd be way different"

You seem to interpret that as a call for death squad being sent to Oregon when all it is is a wish that the state would show this kind of hesitation to everyone.

Or you just have some dumb liberal friends.

Spot on

Just another attempt from the "but both sides are the same!" crowd who are simply above it all
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01-04-2016 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by kidcolin
Well I mean I have about the same authority on this as you do Keed. Feel free to argue otherwise. The state is typically willing to let stuff like this slide for a bit given there's no real threat of violence or damage.

Clark insistence on equating a bunch of people camping in no man's land in the dead of winter to urban rioting is baffling. If these peckerwoods tried this at UCLA or an IRS building, they'd all be dead or arrested right now. Or if they just protested in downtown Salem by the state house and began rioting, setting cars on fire, etc etc, they'd be met with a swiftness.

And guess what.. If and when the state does decide enough is enough, and are met with resistance, then this will likely devolve into another Ruby Ridge or Waco. And in those scenarios, crackers end up dead.

There is a pretty big difference between masses of unarmed people doing stupid **** (looting and rioting) and an armed militia doing it. I would certainly hope the response to black people rioting and looting (dumb) or drunk ass college kids burning stuff after a championship (dumb) would be different than some armed militia doing this to a federal government building
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01-04-2016 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
1) Yes they did take over public facilities
2) There's quite a bit of space between 'bad' and 'terrorist'
These alleged patriots are ARMED to the nines and suggest that they are there for the long haul. Huge difference.
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01-04-2016 , 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Bdidd
These alleged patriots are ARMED to the nines and suggest that they are there for the long haul. Huge difference.
Ows was there for the long haul, are you suggesting that being armed makes them terrorists?
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01-04-2016 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
Ows was there for the long haul, are you suggesting that being armed makes them terrorists?
Threatening to kill anyone who would interfere with them and preparing to die in a gunfight are pretty relevant details.
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01-04-2016 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
Ows was there for the long haul, are you suggesting that being armed makes them terrorists?
Did I say that or do you want me to say that? Has the right wing media called other, unarmed protest groups terrorists? Have you?
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01-04-2016 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Bdidd
Did I say that or do you want me to say that? Has the right wing media called other, unarmed protest groups terrorists? Have you?
A lot of people are saying that, which is why I'm asking you.

And no, I haven't called those groups terrorists. I'm not responsible for anything more than that
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01-04-2016 , 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Threatening to kill anyone who would interfere with them and preparing to die in a gunfight are pretty relevant details.
Are you saying they're terrorists? Cause:

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"We have no intentions of using force upon anyone, (but) if force is used against us, we would defend ourselves."
ain't terrorism
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01-04-2016 , 06:45 PM
"ONLY LOGICAL CONCLUSION" ITT

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