(bdidd - Romney said he's severely conservative)

The Khan family attacks are beneath scorn.

This election is about what it means to be an American.

because it bears repeating, any elected official supporting trump just because he'll be a guy with a presidential pen and and R next to his name is a coward of the highest order and morally bankrupt

looking your way, Principled Conservative (TM) Paul Ryan

Mark Cuban is an Ayn Rand fan (per his Wikipedia page) so that's good enough for me to call him a right-winger. You would think that supporting Hillary Clinton over a fascist would be the easiest call ever for libertarians, unfortunately that has empirically not been true.

The Pew poll In Search of Libertarians does a good job of summarizing the near-nonexistence of actual libertarians in the US. On whether marijuana should be legal, which is the most softball question ever for libertarians you'd think, fully one third wanted it to be illegal. It's the same on every question they asked, large minorities (and occasionally majorities) of "libertarians" supporting non-libertarian positions. Most libertarians are just Republicans who are embarrassed about some aspects of Republicanism - frequently the God-bothering.

Not sure what "on this topic" is doing here btw.

Of course libertarians will want to support Johnson in the first instance. I hope that as the election nears more of them will, like Cuban, recognise the need to outright support Clinton to ensure that Trump doesn't get anywhere near the Oval Office.

#Thinman

I mean, sorta, but the difference between Trump and the modern GOP is not nearly as vast as they would have you believe. They have been peddling the same **** for decades. Last year we saw all manner of racial attacks, that Obama was the "Food Stamp President," that a program enacted by Reagan to get phone service to rural areas was now a new Obamaphone program to give iPhones to black people, that illegal immigrants are attacking people in their homes, etc. They enacted laws to disenfranchise blacks the moment they could. The border wall isn't Trump's idea. Arizona and many others passed legislation to legalize the random harassment of Latinos. Romney was open that he wanted all illegal immigrants to "self-deport." And the anti-Muslim rhetoric was only one step back from Trump. The animus of the base was there just the same (all you had to do was search Facebook for "mosk" around when that guy was proposing building a Muslim community center in Manhattan). Pre-judging that certain judges were unfit and too biased to fairly rule on cases was a GOP cornerstone, albeit it wasn't just on racial lines.

Policywise, to the extent that he's proposed any, most of what Trump has put forth is generic Republican ideas. Trump does have some new black marks, like his treatment of the press and protesters at his rallies, but stirring up racial hate so as to preserve power has been a guiding Republican strategy. I mean, the GOP literally stood behind a war criminal because he had an R next to his name and a presidential pen, so painting Trump as some massive leap too far that they should all obviously shun is pretty rich.

To be clear, the Obama administration repeatedly and purposefully lied to America, including specifically to the families of the victims, about the genesis of the attack in Benghazi, including allegedly from Hillary herself. This is also completely terrible and anti-American.

Hillary doesn't have the bend towards dictatorship and psychosis that Trump has, but she is avaricious, much more hostile to a free press than Obama or even Trump, and has 0 qualms lying to the public to serve her advantage.

If her actions over the past few years are indicative of her Presidency, America and the Bill of Rights are not going to have a good 4 years.

INPEACH

GWB lied about Iraq
Clinton lied about blowjobs
Not sure what GHWB lied about but probably something, I was pretty young then
Reagan lied about Iran-Contra

But sure, something something Obama and Hillary are super anti-American, etc etc

I'm alright with this sentence except the bolded. Trump revoked press credentials of a major newspaper during a presidential campaign, promised to extend libel laws to the press so that he could sue them for writing bad things about him, and repeatedly encouraged Two Minute Hate sessions against reporters at his rallies. I have no idea what you think Hillary has done that remotely compares with that. Not held enough press conferences?

No new taxes

But yeah, lying about WMD so as to start a war leading to the deaths of thousands of Americans and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians is basically the same as some misinformation due to the fog of war that led to no material harm and of which everyone was absolved of any wrongdoing after unprecedented partisan investigation. The latter is just a bridge too far.

She lies roughly as much as other normal (non Cruz/Trump) politicians.

Cuban also voted for Obama.

You might want him to be a right winger but he's voted Democrats for President for 12 years now so just don't see it. And he is on record as being small government, but socially liberal. That is not right wing by any definition I know

And I'm confused by your other comment, supporting Johnson over Hillary and Trump is exactly the decision many people are making.

Alright, fair enough, didn't know that.

Impressive work by Ben Carson. Not quite as impressive as the time he left a sponge in someone's brain, but impressive nonetheless.

Note: referring to the "never tells truth" score in goofball's chart.

just lol: http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/31/politi...cue/index.html

Donald Trump and members of his Secret Service detail were briefly trapped in an elevator Friday before a campaign rally in Colorado Springs.

They were rescued by firefighters with the Colorado Springs Fire Department, which lowered a ladder into the elevator, allowing Trump and his entourage to climb out.

"This is why our country doesn't work," Trump said as he slammed the Colorado Springs fire marshal during the rally, moments after the department's firefighters rescued him. The paper reported that Trump said the fire marshal "didn't know what he was doing and 'was probably a Democrat.' "

haha what a ****ing pig, and very savvy to go after firefighters. This is performance art.

Still can't get over Politifact calling Sanders' claim that his average donation size was $27 "mostly false" because it was actually $27 and change.

Get over it, nath.

The country is broken. Its time to try another path. Trump is that dude, he did this by himself and has EARNED the post of POTUS at this point.

Watching Hillary's DNC speech literally made me ill.

You all fail to understand how poor this country really is, people are going to get into the booth and GAMBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL that it might get better with Trump cause its 0% to get better with Hillary

I'm sorry for you that you believe this

this claim appears to be mostly false

k

Ahhhh the "he is right and i cant refute what he is saying but i want to be sarcastic and dismissive" response

k