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07-30-2016 , 01:28 AM
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I get why people would say this, but as crazy as it sounds, I think that's somehow more likely than him being significantly less wealthy than he says.

The amount of the difference would be unbelievable (even if much of his "wealth" comes from his appraisal of his brand's worth).
It would be a lot more unbelievable if this exact thing hadn't been hinted at several times in the last year by various sources claiming to be in the know. Guess we'll find out.
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07-30-2016 , 02:34 AM
I've seen my share of business at my age.

I feel incredibly confident Trumps tax returns would show that he claims a loss on this business enterprise every year.

I personally don't have anything against that, but it is very likely the case imo. That he claims he is operating at a large loss and benefits from the tax incentives of such situation is a lock.
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07-30-2016 , 07:02 AM
I'd say the biggest reason his tax returns aren't being released is because he never donates, ever. Washington Post reporter has spent months researching this, and found like less than $10,000 in a single donation in the past 10 years, and he isn't even sure if the one donation he did find was actually him. He's also the one who researched extensively that the Veterans event Trump ran was a complete sham, with Trump pocketing most of the money.

Trump is a pathological liar on this topic, and has gotten into legal trouble because of it multiple times. The dude is a straight up bad person, and his tax returns would lay bare this topic.

For perspective, Bloomberg has donated hundreds of millions of dollars over the past couple years.
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07-30-2016 , 08:49 AM
Yeah, successful people who are indeed wealthy and whose wealth increased do indeed sometimes do tax stuff where the layman would be like "HEY THAT IS ONLY FOR NONRICH PEOPLE SO HE'S A CROOK, OR THAT PROVES HE'S NONRICH"

So it's the optics that would be bad, not that it would prove what we all know about Trump being one giant scam
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07-30-2016 , 08:51 AM
'the optics would be bad' is much more devastating to drumpf than it would be to a normal candidate because his campaign is based on 110% optics and -10% substance
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07-30-2016 , 08:54 AM
Sure

But I think he wouldn't lose that much in this particular incidence. If anything, his supporters would feel smart by being able to splain to everyone RICH PEOPLE DO THAT ALL THE TIME, I KNEW YOU WANTED TO TAX EVERYONE TO DEATH to people.
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07-30-2016 , 09:14 AM
Trump's marks aren't changing their minds at this point even if it turns out Trump has been claiming Jobseekers Allowance for the past decade whilst smuggling heroin into the country and running a child sex slavery operation on the side. The only hope is that his worryingly vast army of bigots and simpletons (or at least the subset who are capable of turning up and marking X in the right box on election day without spoiling their ballot papers by drooling all over them) isn't quite enough to win him the election. Of course stuff like refusing to share his tax records won't negatively affect his own turnout, but it's another crumb on the mountainous pile of reasons that might help motivate a few more stubborn swing voters to get out there and vote against him.
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07-30-2016 , 09:46 AM
DJT interview with Maureen Dowd, http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/30/op...olts.html?_r=1

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Donald Trump is mad at me. He thinks I’ve treated him “very badly.” But he returned my call on Friday night on his way to a rally in Colorado and agreed to do a lightning round on the Democratic convention. He began, naturally, by bragging about his convention ratings and bounce, but then we got down to specifics.

On Michael Bloomberg’s speech suggesting Trump is not “sane” and mocking him as a con man:

“A guy who didn’t have the guts to run for president. Little Michael. He doesn’t know anything about me. But he never had the guts to run. He probably wished he did but he didn’t. He spent millions of dollars on polling but he was missing one thing: guts. Little Michael.”

On President Obama calling him “not really a facts guy” and a businessman who left a trail of lawsuits and people who were unpaid and felt cheated:

“Obama gave a good speech but not nearly as good as the press would have you believe. Whether it’s good or bad, the press will say it’s fantastic. In many ways, I like Obama. It’s hard to define. There’s something about him I do like. I’m embarrassed to admit it. I give him a lot of credit. It’s very unique and very hard to do and I give him tremendous credit. He became a two-term president of the United States. He’s got some quality going.”

On Bill Clinton’s reminiscences about his storybook romance with “that girl,” Hillary:

“He left out the most exciting chapter by far.”

On Michelle Obama, who said you can’t boil down the issues a president faces to 140 characters:

“She gave a very good speech.”

On Chelsea’s introduction of her mother:

“I thought Chelsea was excellent. I thought she was very good. She’s very friendly with Ivanka. They like each other and they should continue to be friends. My children were the stars of my convention.”

On the poignant appearance of Muslim lawyer Khizr Khan and his wife, whose son, Humayun, an Army captain, posthumously received a Bronze Star and a Purple Heart and was buried at Arlington National Cemetery after he was killed by a suicide bomber in Iraq in 2004. As his wife, Ghazala, stood silently by his side, Khan held up a copy of the Constitution and asked Trump if he had ever read it and said, “You have sacrificed nothing.”

“I’d like to hear his wife say something.”

On Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe saying that Hillary would turn around as president and support the trade deal:

“He is the only person closer to Hillary Clinton than Bill. I know Terry very well. And he said that Hillary is saying she’s against the Trans-Pacific Partnership now, but if she gets in, don’t worry, she’ll go back to supporting it. She went from calling it the gold standard to going against it. But if she gets in, she’ll change a comma or something and support it again.

On the hack of D.N.C. emails, with the Russians as the suspected perpetrators:

“Emails in general are terrible. There’s no security. It happens so often. I’m old-fashioned. I put a letter in an envelope and have it hand delivered. My son is 10 years old, and he has grown up computer literate. They start using computers before they can walk. His computer was locked and he unlocked it. And I said, ‘Barron, how did you do that?’ And he said, ‘I won’t tell you, Dad.’”

On former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright talking about how Trump may be “the Siberian candidate,” a puppet of Vladimir Putin:

“Madeleine Albright. Talking about a name from the past. Putin said I was a genius. I do say this: Wouldn’t it be wonderful if we actually could get along with Russia and China and some other countries that we don’t get along with, and then we go out and knock the hell out of ISIS? Wouldn’t it be nice if we cleaned that mess up? Wouldn’t it be smart?”

On Missouri Democratic Senator Claire McCaskill telling Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC that Trump inviting a foreign government to hack our government “violates the Logan Act and he should be investigated.” (The Logan Act, passed in 1799, bars private citizens from negotiating with foreign governments without permission.)

“I said it as sarcasm. There were 200 reporters asking me questions and I wanted to be sarcastic, comparing their questions on the D.N.C. hacking to the fact that Hillary Clinton wiped out 33,000 emails through deletion or otherwise. It’s so ridiculous.”

On retired four-star Gen. John Allen hollering, alluding to Trump, that “our international relations will not be reduced to a business transaction” and that “our armed forces will not become an instrument of torture, and they will not be engaged in murder, or carry out other illegal activities”:

“He’s a failed general. He was fighting ISIS? He’s not Gen. George Patton. He’s talking about me and he knows nothing about me. I have a general — General Flynn. I’ll take him any day.”

On Tim Kaine’s speech taunting, “Hey, Donald, what are you hiding?” about Trump’s refusal to release his tax returns:

“I never met the guy. I never saw the guy. He proposed raising taxes in Virginia in his first week by $4 billion. He’s the exact opposite of Bernie Sanders from just about every standpoint. Sanders people will not vote for Hillary. I will release my tax returns after the audit.

On Bryan Cranston of “Breaking Bad” and L.B.J. “All the Way” fame contending that Trump doesn’t really want to be president:

“I want to make America great again. I can do it. She can’t.”

On Joe Biden’s speech saying Trump was full of “malarkey” and had “no clue”:

“He tried very hard. He took some shots at me, but I’m fine. I’m getting used to it.”

On Bernie Sanders:

“I think he wanted to go home and go to sleep. I’d like to hear his wife say something. He could have left one of the great legacies, but he made a deal and now he has buyer’s remorse.”

On Anthony Weiner being in the convention hall in bright red pants, calling Trump’s convention “a Dumpster fire”:

“I think he’s a pervert. It’s dangerous to allow him on the convention floor.”

On Roger Ailes getting fired as head of Fox News over cascading sexual harassment allegations:

“Roger’s a friend of mine.”

On his friend Bill O’Reilly getting criticized for saying — after Michelle spoke about the wonder of her daughters growing up in a White House built by slaves — that those slaves were well fed:

“One thing about Bill, he’ll find a way to be just fine.”

On Hillary’s big night:

“I’m feeling she’s not going to get in. I have a strong feeling about it. I don’t think she has what it takes. I watched her last night. It was hard to watch. I was falling asleep. It beats Sominex every time. She could barely beat Bernie. The system is rigged. It’s a terrible thing.”
The Khizr Khan "answer" shows just what an unsympathetic piece of human garbage this POS is.
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07-30-2016 , 09:57 AM
Weiner vs Roger is just perfect.
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07-30-2016 , 10:06 AM
the adoption of rhetoric bit seems like its true based on the poasts of people such as shane88 and shark sandwich

not the massive cultural shift tho - those people have suffered a great deal of criticism from those of us that are less susceptible to white nationalist propaganda when they bring their cuckolding and bullycide stuff to the thread

i expect this is repeated in other non-white-nationalist parts of the internet and in the wider world
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07-30-2016 , 11:02 AM
Whether or not Hilldog belongs in prison its really alarming to me that it's only after 4 days of getting the **** kicked out of him by every speaker at the DNC that Drumpf decides 'I'm starting to agree with lock her up'. There's no doubt in my mind that someone as petty and insecure as Drumpf would do everything he could to see Clinton in prison if he's elected
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07-30-2016 , 11:05 AM
gwb would be proud of the fear mongering going on here
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07-30-2016 , 11:16 AM
ITT Thinman says "guys, relax, in sure the candidate I'm shilling is just lying!"
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07-30-2016 , 11:20 AM
O/U 1.5

The number of debates Trump actually takes part in

go
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07-30-2016 , 11:23 AM
There's already 2 scheduled isn't there?
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07-30-2016 , 11:45 AM
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There's already 2 scheduled isn't there?
Three I thought, plus one for the VPs
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07-30-2016 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by schu_22
O/U 1.5

The number of debates Trump actually takes part in

go

My life roll on over. He gets to be on TV with people listening to him.
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07-30-2016 , 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Karak
this is great

lmao
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07-30-2016 , 11:55 AM
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O/U 1.5

The number of debates Trump actually takes part in

go
I'd bet the under at 1.01
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07-30-2016 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BAIDS
'the optics would be bad' is much more devastating to drumpf than it would be to a normal candidate because his campaign is based on 110% optics and -10% substance
Nah. Trump's campaign isn't about optics. It's about the racism. People have latched onto the racism, and they'll make up whatever all reasons to say they support him after that. They'll continue to see him as a successful businessman just the same as the history of Trump Steaks, Trump Vodka, and Trump U doesn't shake their confidence in Trump's business acumen. The rebuttal is obvious: "Of course he's having a rough time in this Obameconomy! The country is on the brink of ruin, not even TRUMP can get ahead."
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07-30-2016 , 12:37 PM
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There's already 2 scheduled isn't there?
That is correct. And that's the reason for my question if you get what I'm saying
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07-30-2016 , 01:12 PM
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'the optics would be bad' is much more devastating to drumpf than it would be to a normal candidate because his campaign is based on 110% optics and -10% substance
when he said he could kill someone on fifth avenue and still win the nomination, he meant it.
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07-30-2016 , 01:42 PM
Video of the Trump ABC interview about the Khans:

https://amp.twimg.com/v/fefa68ff-7c3...c-6d0383f649e7

No compassion for the fallen soldier.

No empathy for the family.

It's ****ing psychotic.

And then even worse, he takes a shot at the grieving mother (who could barely finish sentences in an interview last night describing her fallen son as a hero), as if she was somehow not allowed to talk. Takes a shot at a man who talked from his heart with the TelePrompter off, accusing him of being fed lines by Hillary.

The guy is human garbage. A piece of ****.

Anyone who thinks that lunatic in that video should be President of the United States is a ****ing moron, end of.
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07-30-2016 , 01:54 PM
Part II, featuring Ms. Khan speaking and Mr. Khan crediting her strength that gave him the courage to speak out against a homegrown demagogue:

http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/w...p-735109699658
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