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12-18-2015 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by THAY3R
I don't think the 30% means as much lols as people want it to mean. I'd say the 19% from Democrats is even more surprising/concerning.
it's not anything, it's what you get when you ask a purposefully misleading poll question
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12-18-2015 , 08:45 PM
Misleading? How is the question misleading? It's not like they're asking if they want to bomb Eye-Ron. These lunatics want to bomb a country they've never heard of.
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12-18-2015 , 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
Misleading? How is the question misleading? It's not like they're asking if they want to bomb Eye-Ron. These lunatics want to bomb a country they've never heard of.
Of course it's misleading, why it is shouldn't be too hard to figure out. Also, 20% of Democrats feel the same way.


So what we've really got is a 10% difference in Republican party supporters wanting to attack a brown sounding country. The only thing really surprising is how small the difference is, no?
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12-18-2015 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by THAY3R
Of course it's misleading, why it is shouldn't be too hard to figure out. Also, 20% of Democrats feel the same way.


So what we've really got is a 10% difference in Republican party supporters wanting to attack a brown sounding country. The only thing really surprising is how small the difference is, no?
Not that it matters but it's 19%. Though there's a much larger percentage of democrats that say we shouldn't bomb a place that they've never heard of, while a lot of republicans aren't sure.
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12-18-2015 , 09:18 PM
30% vs 19% is one way to look at it. "Over 50% more Republicans than Democrats" is another.
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12-18-2015 , 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by nath
30% vs 19% is one way to look at it. "Over 50% more Republicans than Democrats" is another.
really? Like i know senorkeeed isn't trying, are you trying? Really?
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12-18-2015 , 09:22 PM
I don't think you need a poll to conclude that Republicans are more open to bombing something that sounds Middle Eastern, I'm just saying that poll doesn't really say what people are thinking it says. If anything it's more surprising/concerning that Democrats feel so similarly. People are acting like "Lol, look how stupid and crazy Republicans are!" when the data doesn't really point to a distinction between the parties considering how generally pro war Republicans are compared to Democrats.
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12-18-2015 , 09:29 PM
30%/19%- Huge difference

1 white terrorist/you know who- Same
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12-18-2015 , 09:30 PM
Would you support or oppose bombing
Agrabah?

dem
support 19%
oppose 36%
unsure 45%

GOP
support 30%
oppose 13%
unsure 57%
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12-18-2015 , 09:34 PM
Does the "unsure" percentage include the people telling the pollster that Agrabah is not a real country?
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12-18-2015 , 09:35 PM
Those people are probably rejected as uncooperative
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12-18-2015 , 09:44 PM
So one party is more likely to blindly support and one is more likely to blindly oppose. Like I said, not very surprising at all and the only thing that's really surprising is the Democrat support. If anything the GOP being more unsure shows a higher hesitancy, though the poll is just dumb anyways as it was clearly made with the intentions of making fun of the republican party.
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12-18-2015 , 09:56 PM
The Repubs that are unsure just want to check Obama's position first
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12-18-2015 , 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by THAY3R
Of course it's misleading, why it is shouldn't be too hard to figure out. Also, 20% of Democrats feel the same way.


So what we've really got is a 10% difference in Republican party supporters wanting to attack a brown sounding country. The only thing really surprising is how small the difference is, no?
I still don't understand how it is misleading. It's just measuring how many lunatics there are who just want to bomb everything, even countries they haven't heard of. They're not confusing it with a real place. They'll simply support bombing any Muslim sounding name that gets thrown out there.
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12-18-2015 , 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
I still don't understand how it is misleading. It's just measuring how many lunatics there are who just want to bomb everything, even countries they haven't heard of. They're not confusing it with a real place. They'll simply support bombing any Muslim sounding name that gets thrown out there.
you sure about that? because we're bombing a wide variety of areas right now, and this name could easily be a city. 68% of people want the USA to be more aggressive fighting ISIS. It's ****ing misleading as ****.
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12-18-2015 , 10:17 PM
What city do you think people are confusing it with?
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12-18-2015 , 10:37 PM
Amidst global warming concerns, do you support the banning of dihydrogen monoxide?

Liberals will be more likely to say yes, does that make them dumber/crazier/more full of lunatics?
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12-18-2015 , 11:16 PM
Thayer just refuses to acknowledge that dihydrogen monoxide has been found in every cancer cell ever.
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12-18-2015 , 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by THAY3R
So one party is more likely to blindly support and one is more likely to blindly oppose.
Or, you know, oppose because it's not a real place, but make your own assumptions. Alternately, the way you talk about it, it sounds like you think opposing a bombing you know nothing about is a bad thing.

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Amidst global warming concerns, do you support the banning of dihydrogen monoxide?

Liberals will be more likely to say yes, does that make them dumber/crazier/more full of lunatics?
It certainly means dumb liberals are a lot more likely to care about global warming than dumb conservatives. (Which is strange, because environmental conservation... conservative is right there in the name.) If you said "Muslims are known to contain 80% dihydrogen monoxide, do you support its ban?" you'd get the opposite results.
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12-19-2015 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by THAY3R
Amidst global warming concerns, do you support the banning of dihydrogen monoxide?

Liberals will be more likely to say yes, does that make them dumber/crazier/more full of lunatics?

Yes. If you don't know what something is and your answer is yes/no instead of unsure then you are a reckless idiot and we would be better off without these people being allowed to offer opinions or vote on things.
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12-19-2015 , 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by nath
Or, you know, oppose because it's not a real place, but make your own assumptions. Alternately, the way you talk about it, it sounds like you think opposing a bombing you know nothing about is a bad thing.



It certainly means dumb liberals are a lot more likely to care about global warming than dumb conservatives. (Which is strange, because environmental conservation... conservative is right there in the name.) If you said "Muslims are known to contain 80% dihydrogen monoxide, do you support its ban?" you'd get the opposite results.

What's the point of opposing a bombing of a fictitious place? If it's fictitious it doesn't matter if you support or oppose it and thus oppose is no better than support even though both are clearly inferior to the "why are you asking me about something that isn't real?" option that is not given and we don't know how those get categorized but it's most likely to be the unsure category.
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12-19-2015 , 12:16 AM
Nath,

Look at how dumb these LUNATIC liberals are! They're willing to ban anything! Not only are they pro-choice but they're Anti-LIFE! Water is the most essential thing on this planet! And they want to ban it?!?! LOL Liberals they're so stupid.
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12-19-2015 , 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
What's the point of opposing a bombing of a fictitious place? If it's fictitious it doesn't matter if you support or oppose it and thus oppose is no better than support even though both are clearly inferior to the "why are you asking me about something that isn't real?" option that is not given and we don't know how those get categorized but it's most likely to be the unsure category.
If you know it is fictitious then sure. But that isn't what is happening here. People aren't all "oh yeah we should for sure bomb that place from Aladdin." They're just on board with bombing any Muslim sounding place even if they know nothing about it.
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12-19-2015 , 11:11 AM
I think the thing that most frustrates me about the terrorism discussion among all politicians is that they approach it as a problem that we must "solve" or a threat that we must "defeat".

Terrorism is always going to be a threat to a free society and the question should be how can we ensure security while maintaining our freedom in the best way possible, presenting it as something that America can be rid of entirely just sets a goal that is unattainable.
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12-19-2015 , 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
If you know it is fictitious then sure. But that isn't what is happening here. People aren't all "oh yeah we should for sure bomb that place from Aladdin." They're just on board with bombing any Muslim sounding place even if they know nothing about it.

But nath said people should oppose it since it's not a real place which isn't a reasonable thought process.
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