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07-19-2016 , 02:24 AM


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07-19-2016 , 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
yeah but like, again

is there a single human being bad enough at life to have believed any of that but yet good enough at life to notice cracks in the narrative?

I submit no, unless there are threeve?
Similar question. Is there a person out there who is going to switch votes because of Benghazi? Yet Repubs keep hammering Benghazi.
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07-19-2016 , 03:10 AM
lol hoya, just think about what you spent all day doing
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07-19-2016 , 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by chuckleslovakian
Similar question. Is there a person out there who is going to switch votes because of Benghazi? Yet Repubs keep hammering Benghazi.
Benghazi is for the base. Turnout is important too and Benghazi Mom saying that Hillary lied to her face is effective.
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07-19-2016 , 08:09 AM
This speech thing is incredible. Wow. Unreal.
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07-19-2016 , 08:28 AM
People already forgetting Eastwood talking to an empty chair last convention.
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07-19-2016 , 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Karak
This speech thing is incredible. Wow. Unreal.
Actual Facebook status:
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Don't worry about it darling, you obviously appreciated her sentiment and decided to incorporate the best words she had to use. And in turn, your speech, Ms Melania, was 100 times more exciting, down to earth and so much more heartfelt than Michealls could even begin to be!
...The level of 'they're never right and we're never wrong' on the R side is astounding, to the point where I think we as a country are too far gone, because D's have adopted the same stance as a response.

We're done.
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07-19-2016 , 08:39 AM
odds this was done on purpose? gotta be pretty substantial. Trump knows the people who would care about this aren't voting for him anyways, this is like the 112th most outrageous thing his side has done.

it's just more free media for him
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07-19-2016 , 08:44 AM
07-19-2016 , 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Kneel B4 Zod
odds this was done on purpose? gotta be pretty substantial. Trump knows the people who would care about this aren't voting for him anyways, this is like the 112th most outrageous thing his side has done.

it's just more free media for him
I think it's more likely that it was done on purpose to sabotage her. But as Hoya pointed out this will have no effect on votes I don't think. Though it is one of his worst looks among the many bad looks.

Things that make him look incompetent surely hurt him more than any of the outrageous/horrible things he says/does.
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07-19-2016 , 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by MEb
YESSSSS

this was so elite. Nice hand
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07-19-2016 , 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
I think it's more likely that it was done on purpose to sabotage her. But as Hoya pointed out this will have no effect on votes I don't think. Though it is one of his worst looks among the many bad looks.

Things that make him look incompetent surely hurt him more than any of the outrageous/horrible things he says/does.
Yeah this is a horrible look. The appearance of rank amateurishness is something his campaign can least afford right now. Good news for Hillary.
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07-19-2016 , 09:26 AM


(in addition, Trump University material was plagiarized)
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07-19-2016 , 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by TheQuietAnarchist
cabanbusto,

Arent you in software / tech? There's plenty of awesome ways you can contribute to social progress, from volunteering / mentoring young underrepped coders, to speaking up for diversity at your workplace, to joining a forward-looking problem-solving company at some point in your career, etc.

The greatest trick the politics arguers ever pulled was letting us think the only way to make progress was to stoop to their level.
Yeah, and I will continue on with social/charitable stuff like that. Absolutely. I just mean I will not be directly political apart from voting--no protesting, no marching, no campaigning, no debating, no calling out bigots, none of it. It just doesn't seem worth it.

I emailed Noam Chomsky about 5 years ago and he said those were the ways to gain real change. (He answers almost all his emails afaik btw). Maybe he's right. Or maybe he was right and that no longer works. In any case, I can't help but think I will be blowing a huge chunk of my life for almost nothing if I do those things. Probably easy for me to say as someone who has it relatively good in America.
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07-19-2016 , 09:32 AM
Chris Christie Reek: "It's not plagiarism because 93% of the speech was completely different."

Amazing.
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07-19-2016 , 09:38 AM
Be sure to tell your professors that when they tell you they're failing you for plagiarizing 7% of a paper
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07-19-2016 , 09:47 AM
1. Its possible the speech wasn't plagiarized because the content of speeches like this is typically pretty limited. I rate this at substantially <1%, but I have seen enough 1 in a million type of things happen in my life to know that they do occur.

2. It is substantially more likely, though still under 50%, that this was a genius political move by TRUMP. The associations of Melania=Michelle will last much longer than the backlash about the plagiarism and Michelle is well liked by basically every single person who would currently support Hillary or be uncertain of who they are voting except maybe a few Republicans in the Never Trump camp who will still end up clicking the TRUMP box when it comes time in November.

Furthermore, this will overshadow many of the other clown things that were/will be said at this convention that are meant for the base. The news coverage of this will be huge and this is a good thing for TRUMP as I don't think there is going to be much in the way of actual content coming out of this convention that will convince the people who are undecided to vote TRUMP.

Lastly, Melania will get substantially more leeway for this than any political figure or other member of the TRUMP family would since English is like her fourth language or whatever and she is clearly a little uncomfortable with speaking in English in public. If it is needed they will fire the "editor" or "speech writer" (whichever is more convenient to have based on the way the story progresses).
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07-19-2016 , 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by domer2
Chris Christie Reek: "It's not plagiarism because 93% of the speech was completely different."

Amazing.
This is a man who wants to be the AG?
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07-19-2016 , 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
2. It is substantially more likely, though still under 50%, that this was a genius political move by TRUMP. The associations of Melania=Michelle will last much longer than the backlash about the plagiarism and Michelle is well liked by basically every single person who would currently support Hillary or be uncertain of who they are voting except maybe a few Republicans in the Never Trump camp who will still end up clicking the TRUMP box when it comes time in November.

Furthermore, this will overshadow many of the other clown things that were/will be said at this convention that are meant for the base. The news coverage of this will be huge and this is a good thing for TRUMP as I don't think there is going to be much in the way of actual content coming out of this convention that will convince the people who are undecided to vote TRUMP.

Lastly, Melania will get substantially more leeway for this than any political figure or other member of the TRUMP family would since English is like her fourth language or whatever and she is clearly a little uncomfortable with speaking in English in public. If it is needed they will fire the "editor" or "speech writer" (whichever is more convenient to have based on the way the story progresses).
Once reports got out that Drumpf was trying to get out of pence the midnight of the announcement I think 'genius political move' no longer is a card that can be played to describe any move he does

Having said that I think the speech is still accidentally a massive win for Drumpf. The only people who are going to laugh at this are the people who were never voting for Drumpf to begin with, a lot more undecideds or republicans whose support Drumpf doesn't already have can look at this and be swayed over. It's a BEAUTIFUL MESSAGE where she THINKS OF THE CHILDREN by someone who LOVES AMERICA and ISNT A POLITICIAN who STANDS BY HER MAN which makes this billionaire model JUST LIKE YOU AND ME
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07-19-2016 , 09:58 AM
More amazing responses from the cult:

Ben Carson said if it does turn out to be plagiarized, we should be very happy, because it shows Republicans and Democrats coming together.

Manafort just said it was Hillary's fault because their camp is really the ones "getting this stuff out there." "When Hillary Clinton is threatened by a female, the first thing she does is to try to destroy the person."

I'm almost there. Keep going.
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07-19-2016 , 10:02 AM
The funny thing about the speech plagiarism is it's so friggin obvious she is not describing Donald Trump but an entirely different person. She may as well have described his dark skin and lanky physique.
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07-19-2016 , 10:04 AM
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07-19-2016 , 10:05 AM
holy **** thats amazing
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07-19-2016 , 10:10 AM
Lololol
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07-19-2016 , 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
1. Its possible the speech wasn't plagiarized because the content of speeches like this is typically pretty limited. I rate this at substantially <1%, but I have seen enough 1 in a million type of things happen in my life to know that they do occur.

2. It is substantially more likely, though still under 50%, that this was a genius political move by TRUMP. The associations of Melania=Michelle will last much longer than the backlash about the plagiarism and Michelle is well liked by basically every single person who would currently support Hillary or be uncertain of who they are voting except maybe a few Republicans in the Never Trump camp who will still end up clicking the TRUMP box when it comes time in November.

Furthermore, this will overshadow many of the other clown things that were/will be said at this convention that are meant for the base. The news coverage of this will be huge and this is a good thing for TRUMP as I don't think there is going to be much in the way of actual content coming out of this convention that will convince the people who are undecided to vote TRUMP.

Lastly, Melania will get substantially more leeway for this than any political figure or other member of the TRUMP family would since English is like her fourth language or whatever and she is clearly a little uncomfortable with speaking in English in public. If it is needed they will fire the "editor" or "speech writer" (whichever is more convenient to have based on the way the story progresses).
If this is a parody of online Trump supporters it is insanely good.
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