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05-12-2024 , 03:48 PM
are you sure it wasn't cordyceps?
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05-12-2024 , 03:50 PM
C-diff is what they told me. I showed up dizzy as hell told them what was happening. The tested blood said my blood was off charts for infection, then tested some of the volcano and they said c-diff. Which was weird to them cause normally it's a hospital thing and for people with low immune. So it was strange, only thing I can think of was McDonalds. Glad it wasn't a worm munchin on my brain.

Edit- for any curios about pro-biotics. I became an absoulte loon about taking them. I have tried them all. And the gold star goes to a brand called "Nella" Kinda a pain to get. they want you to sign up for sub and spam your email. But worth it. If I ever even got the runs I would panic as if it might be coming back. One Nella and it was fixed in a day. No other probiotic even came close. Did not eat every day. Once a month at most, all good.

Back to RFK, tough break fella.

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05-12-2024 , 06:12 PM
https://theintercept.com/2024/05/10/...s-gaza-report/

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IN A LONG-AWAITED report, the State Department lays out numerous suspected international humanitarian violations by Israel in its war on Gaza,
oh boy, this'll be good!

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yet suggests no changes in policy or consequences.
of course

cliffs:

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The Biden administration concludes it is likely that Israel used U.S.-supplied weapons in “incidents that raise concerns” about the country’s legal compliance, while crediting Israel for investigating them. [There are] “deep concerns” about “action and inaction” by the government resulting in aid delivery to Gaza that “remains insufficient.”
but they somehow came to the conclusion that israel isn't interfering with aid (lol), i guess they can't admit that in so many words

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The State Department said it’s “reasonable to assess” that Israeli forces have used U.S. weapons in ways “inconsistent” with international humanitarian law or “best practices for mitigating civilian harm.” [and that] “that Israel could do more to avoid civilian harm.”

“While Israel has the knowledge, experience, and tools to implement best practices for mitigating civilian harm in its military operations, the results on the ground, including high levels of civilian casualties, raise substantial questions as to whether the IDF is using them effectively in all cases.”
but they somehow came to the conclusion that israel isn't targeting civilians (lol)

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The 46-page report includes a section addressing the Leahy Law: a 1997 law that prohibits U.S. assistance to “any unit of the security forces of a foreign country if the Secretary of State has credible information that such unit has committed a gross violation of human rights.” The 14-some pages regarding Israel specifically make no mention of the law, or whether Israel is in compliance with it.

FRIDAY’S REPORT WAS submitted under a national security memorandum issued by the Biden administration in February. The memorandum — known as “NSM-20” — required the State and Defense departments to obtain “credible and reliable written assurances” that Israel was not using any U.S.-supplied weapons in violation of international law. Israel provided these assurances in mid-March.

NSM-20 also required the administration to report to Congress on whether there were any “credible reports or allegations” that undercut Israel’s assurances. In recent weeks, Oxfam, Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, and a coalition of humanitarian organizations flagged numerous incidents to Secretary of State Antony Blinken.

Last month, 26 Democrats — including one of President Joe Biden’s campaign co-chairs — questioned U.S. assertions at the time that Israel was using U.S. weapons in accordance with international law, given “mounting credible and deeply troubling reports and allegations that Israel has used U.S arms in ways that violate U.S. and international law.” This followed a similar letter sent from 17 Senate Democrats in March.
congratulations, you are the proud owner of a genocide

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After the report’s publication, an independent task force called it “at worst intentionally misleading in defense of acts and behaviors that likely violate international humanitarian law and may amount to war crimes.” The task force includes two former senior State Department officials, Charles Blaha and Josh Paul, and human rights attorney Noura Erakat. “Once again, the Biden Administration has stared the facts in the face — and then pulled the curtains shut.”
genocide joe is all-in, baby

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AS THE DEADLINE for the administration’s report approached, officials at the U.S. Agency for International Development, or USAID, joined by parts of the State Department, urged Blinken to find Israel’s commitments were not credible or reliable when it comes to allowing humanitarian aid into Gaza. “The killing of nearly 32,000 people, of which the GOI (Government of Israel) itself assesses roughly two-thirds are civilian, may well amount to a violation of the international humanitarian law requirement,” USAID wrote in a submission to Blinken, according to reporting from Reuters.

But Friday’s report concludes that Israel is not “prohibiting or otherwise restricting the transport or delivery of U.S. humanitarian assistance,” at least within the meaning of U.S. law.
lmao

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In an “options memo” compiled for Blinken in recent weeks, some State Department bureaus came to the same conclusion, Reuters reported last month. In a joint submission, four bureaus raised “serious concern over non-compliance” with humanitarian law, including “unconscionably high levels of civilian harm to military advantage” and “killing humanitarian workers and journalists at an unprecedented rate.”

This week, Biden admitted for the first time that Israeli forces have used U.S. bombs to kill civilians. In December, he stated that Israel was losing support over its “indiscriminate bombing” in Gaza.
damn “indiscriminate bombing” of civilians since december by your own admission (it's obv been since october, but whatever), and now you're finally admitting that they're using your weapons to do it, yet suggests no changes in policy or consequences.

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For over 216 days, the world has watched Israel use weapons provided by the United States to commit mass atrocities and gross violations against Palestinians in Gaza. Civil society organizations, watchdogs, and former administration officials have documented and verified countless examples that have shown Israel’s assurances were never credible nor reliable,” said Mohammed Khader, action policy manager at the U.S. Campaign for Palestinian Rights. “The report is grossly incomplete and is far from holding Israel accountable for violating U.S. and international law.”
yet suggests no changes in policy or consequences

"nothing will change"
-sleepy creepy genocide dark brandon
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05-13-2024 , 05:51 PM
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State Department confirms 20 American doctors stranded behind Israeli siege and facing dehydration

we did it, joe!
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05-13-2024 , 06:12 PM
What kind of doctors are they?

Maybe they'll all PHD literature bitches who are trying lecture on philosophy and ****.

US could afford to lose 20 of those.
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05-13-2024 , 06:29 PM
guessing they're medical doctors, and i'm guessing since they went to gaza to help ppl they're mostly or entirely non-white, all of which why they don't matter to genocide joe or usa#1


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https://theintercept.com/2024/05/13/...ployee-killed/

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UPWARD OF 20 American doctors are trapped in Gaza as a result of Israel’s post-invasion closure of the Rafah border crossing into Egypt, according to sources with knowledge of the plight of two ill-fated medical missions.

Israel has blocked fuel, food, and water from entering Rafah for over a week, leading to severe dehydration among the general population, as well as among the doctors on mission.

Relatives of the doctors were told by the State Department that rescue efforts were underway, including through coordination with the United Nations and the Israel Defense Forces. Yet on Monday, the Israeli military fired on a United Nations vehicle that was traveling to the European Hospital in Khan Younis, near Rafah, killing a U.N. employee and injuring another.

Among the stranded doctors is Adam Hamawy, a plastic surgeon and Army veteran from New Jersey. While serving in Iraq, he was on duty when now-Sen. Tammy Duckworth’s mangled body was brought to the hospital after her helicopter was shot down. She credits him with saving her life. Hamawy’s friend Sami Shaban has been in touch with him the past several days and said that he is physically doing well. “He’s a tough dude,” said Shaban, who has lost 35 members of his own family in Gaza. “Now we just need to get him home. We funded the bombing of every single hospital there. You have to at least let the relief people in and out.”

the system works! usa#1

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05-13-2024 , 07:49 PM
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What kind of doctors are they?
they are antisemitic doctors. if they werent, then they wouldnt be serving the ancient antisemitic Ameliks.
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05-14-2024 , 08:59 PM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFoW1E84khc


thank the gods that the good guy genociders are back in the room #vbnmw
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05-14-2024 , 09:12 PM
I don't like Hassan's voice.
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05-14-2024 , 09:44 PM
yeah maybe it's an acquired taste idk, doesn't bother me anymore. worth powering through for the mostly correct takes imo
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05-14-2024 , 11:21 PM
Chief's planet absolutely eating today:

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“While COVID might have played a large role throughout your formative years, it is not unique,” he said. “The bad policies and poor leadership have negatively impacted major life issues. Things like abortion, IVF, surrogacy, euthanasia, as well as a growing support for the degenerate cultural values and media all stem from pervasiveness of disorder.”

Butker later addressed the women in the audience, arguing that their “most important title” should be that of “homemaker.”

“I think it is you, the women, who have had the most diabolic lies told to you," Butker said. “Some of you may go on to lead successful careers in the world, but I would venture to guess that the majority of you are most excited about your marriage and the children you will bring into this world. I can tell you that my beautiful wife Isabelle would be the first to say her life truly started when she started living her vocation as a wife and as a mother.”
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05-14-2024 , 11:33 PM
really wish fascists would figure out if no one wants to work or no one wants to stay home anymore


or maybe someone could explain to that moran that not everyone is on an nfl salary, so the ladies can't afford to stay in the kitchen these days. wanna do anything about that, guy? no? stfu then
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05-15-2024 , 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 72off
yeah maybe it's an acquired taste idk, doesn't bother me anymore. worth powering through for the mostly correct takes imo
I dunno Hasan had one of those Houthi pirates on.

He's questionable.

I follow Secular Talk, Majority Report, David Pakman, and sometimes Breaking Points and Rational National for an even amount of correct takes.
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05-15-2024 , 07:12 PM
https://theintercept.com/2024/05/15/...ar-biden-gaza/


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THE LEGENDARY PRUSSIAN military theorist Carl von Clausewitz, whose works remain an influence on U.S. military officers today, wrote in his famous 19th-century treatise “On War” that “war is merely the continuation of politics by other means.” A military general himself advising on how best to wage an armed conflict, Clausewitz nonetheless reminded his readers that the purpose of war is to achieve political goals, not to pursue violence as end to itself, or as a wholesale substitute for diplomacy.

Clausewitz’s words would have been well-heeded by the U.S. and Israel before the start of the current war in the Gaza Strip, which has now reached a painful yet predictable impasse. So far, tens of thousands of Palestinians have been killed or wounded, Israel now faces genocide charges at the International Court of Justice, and Hamas control is already returning to parts of Gaza previously declared conquered by Israel.

Israeli military officials are now going public with criticisms that the war in Gaza had been misguided for a simple reason that Clausewitz himself would have recognized: Besides revenge, the war never had a clear political strategy or objective.
i mean they have an objective; to kill or move every palestinian out of the country


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[...] Well before October 7, the Israeli government decided that the Palestinians, whether in the West Bank or Gaza, were no longer politically relevant. Rather than dealing with the Palestinians as political agents, Israeli leaders have taken the position that Palestinians are merely a subject population to be suppressed and controlled with a mixture of military, technological, and economic tools.

While continuing a policy of blockading and periodically bombing Gaza, Israel has either ignored or rejected the Palestinian Authority’s calls, with the support of international law, for a two-state solution. Instead, Israel proceeded unilaterally with its colonization and annexation of the West Bank, cementing a consensus among major human rights groups that Israel is an apartheid state.

[...] From a U.S. perspective, Biden’s reflexive backing for a war that has proven to be equal parts aimless and brutal has now trapped the U.S. in a situation where it is the primary enabler of an alleged genocide.

The war has not only tarnished America’s reputation abroad but is also increasingly tearing at its own social fabric. Even diehard subscribers to the U.S. foreign policy consensus have been forced to reckon with the failures of treating the Palestinians as politically irrelevant.

[...] The Gaza war began in the heat of emotion after Hamas’s attacks against Israeli civilian communities. It was quickly advertised to the Israeli public as a war to eradicate the group entirely. Yet seven months later, with tens of thousands of Palestinians dead and wounded, Israel remains mired in the territory with no prospect of an endgame in sight.

[...] The political landscape in Israel doesn’t offer much solace. Israel’s government contains far-right and even openly fascist ministers. Gallant, for his part, is considered a “mainstream” political figure in the country — a stark demonstration of just how much politics in Israel has moved away from the realm of diplomacy and negotiation.

[...] The U.S. enables Israel’s continued digging of this ditch, despite overwhelming international consensus that it is violating international law. The unquestioning support and diplomatic cover it has received from successive U.S. governments, most recently from the Biden administration, has allowed a small country to defy global norms and public opinion, as it descends into a North Korea-like posture of paranoia and defiance.

Biden is now tanking in the polls, despite his own reported disbelief.
whaaat!? the kids don't like my genocide??
lmao


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If he loses the next election after enabling all of Israel’s worst tendencies, he will go down not only as the leader who handed the presidency back to Donald Trump, but also as a diplomatic failure. He will have locked a superpower into a relationship with a client state that has long since abandoned diplomacy and international law in exchange for apartheid, endless war, and the use of brutal, even eliminationist force to address its problems.

Clausewitz himself warned of the shortcomings of such an approach. “The political object is the goal, war is the means of reaching it, and the means can never be considered in isolation from their purposes,” he wrote. For Israel, and the U.S. alongside it, the future is one in which war will likely continue to be waged with no clear goals at all.
again, the goal is kill/clear them all, and usa#1 is here to ensure that happens
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05-15-2024 , 07:59 PM
Isn't it about over? Once they clear out the south what's left? They may have certain people they are looking for, but seems to be winding down. Do they plan to occupy? If so, they need to get aid in, or it's really bad look. Not sure what they want but if they got who they wanted, this can be over soon.
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05-15-2024 , 08:38 PM
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Isn't it about over? Once they clear out the south what's left? They may have certain people they are looking for, but seems to be winding down. Do they plan to occupy? If so, they need to get aid in, or it's really bad look. Not sure what they want but if they got who they wanted, this can be over soon.
It would probably look a little something like this
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05-15-2024 , 08:39 PM
ok, a few things:

1. the article mentions what i've heard elsewhere; that hamas has already returned to areas that they've previously obliterated. wouldn't be surprised if israel doesn't care about this, as it enables them to continue playing whack-a-mole bombing anything and everything indefinitely, killing thousands more palestinian civilians, their true goal
2. yes they probably plan to force whoever survives out of the country and finish stealing all the land. zionists only in israel
3. apparently netanyahu, like trump, has legal issues. and apparently him extending this genocide allows him to avoid those issues and stay in power. have seen a bunch of reports saying israel expects this to go on for 10+ years (or until all the palestinians are dead/gone, which ever comes first). maybe it won't go 10 years, but i think they want to do this for as long as possible
4. israel hates the dems and want trump in power, so i'd be stunned if this ended before november
5. get aid in? they've literally been killing anyone trying to do that for a while now (since october prob but i don't remember specifically). they want to starve anyone not being exploded
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05-15-2024 , 08:40 PM
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I dunno Hasan had one of those Houthi pirates on.

He's questionable.

I follow Secular Talk, Majority Report, David Pakman, and sometimes Breaking Points and Rational National for an even amount of correct takes.

time to step your game up to Electronic Intifada
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05-15-2024 , 08:41 PM
I can’t possibly imagine the plan is occupation. Gazans won’t recognize an Israeli government as rulers and Netanyahu probably doesn’t want to rule over gazans. I assume this ends when Muslims represent the minority of Gaza
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05-15-2024 , 08:45 PM
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05-15-2024 , 08:52 PM
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I can’t possibly imagine the plan is occupation. Gazans won’t recognize an Israeli government as rulers and Netanyahu probably doesn’t want to rule over gazans. I assume this ends when Muslims represent the minority of Gaza
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According to Ron Ben-Yishai, in his dual role as Finance Minister and adjunct Minister in the Ministry of Defense, Smotrich intends to implement ideas set forth in his "Decisive Plan" (2017) which, according to Ben-Yishai, foresees: “Flood[ing], simply so, the areas of Judea and Samaria with settlements and Jewish settlers. When this happens, the Palestinians are supposed to understand that they have no chance to get a state of their own, and they would have to choose between one of the three options – a life of subjugation under Israeli rule, emigration, or a shahid [martyr] death”
Conservative Israelis are mask-off in a way that American Republicans use as porn.
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05-16-2024 , 06:05 PM
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I follow Secular Talk, Majority Report, David Pakman, and sometimes Breaking Points and Rational National for an even amount of correct takes.

wait this guy literally works for brandon? lol
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05-16-2024 , 07:29 PM
Biden, whose administration has reviewed the tariff rates over the past year, is keeping intact more than $300 billion in tariffs imposed by former President Donald Trump. The tariff increases include:

Electric vehicles from China: from 25% to 100% beginning this year.
Semiconductors from China: from 25% to 50% by 2025.
Lithium-ion batteries from China used in electric vehicles: from 7.5% to 25% this year.
Solar cells imported from China: from 25% to 50% this year.
Steel and aluminum products: from zero-7.5% to 25% this year.
Ship-to-shore container cranes imported from China: from zero to 25% this year
Hospital syringes and needles made in China: from zero to 50% this year.


Even Elon has said they are making some good Electric cars. Sucks, there could be some cheap decent cars for sale. Ah well.
This seems agressive.
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05-17-2024 , 09:17 AM
Dems really have gone full mask off fascist lately. They've been on the wrong side of every civil rights movement ever and they continue to be against the people.
Have fun losing in November because supporting a genocidal regime was more important.
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05-17-2024 , 03:21 PM
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Biden, whose administration has reviewed the tariff rates over the past year, is keeping intact more than $300 billion in tariffs imposed by former President Donald Trump. The tariff increases include:

Electric vehicles from China: from 25% to 100% beginning this year.
Semiconductors from China: from 25% to 50% by 2025.
Lithium-ion batteries from China used in electric vehicles: from 7.5% to 25% this year.
Solar cells imported from China: from 25% to 50% this year.
Steel and aluminum products: from zero-7.5% to 25% this year.
Ship-to-shore container cranes imported from China: from zero to 25% this year
Hospital syringes and needles made in China: from zero to 50% this year.


Even Elon has said they are making some good Electric cars. Sucks, there could be some cheap decent cars for sale. Ah well.
This seems agressive.
Chinese EVs are fully waxing our muffins right now.

Which do you want: people get awesome cars but US auto manufacturers are decimated OR you protect manufacturers in the short term but make consumers deal with an inferior product?

The answer probably depends on whether or not your job relies on voters
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