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11-17-2023 , 03:45 AM
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11-18-2023 , 03:58 PM
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BREAKING: Israeli police investigation reveals that Israeli military helicopters may have been responsible for killing Israelis at the music rave.

lol
we'll get to end of this and it'll turn out that hamas only actually killed like 5 ppl (0 civilians)


cliffs: 10/7 was an inside job false flag thing so these freaks had "justification" for the genocide & ethnic cleansing that they've wanted to do forever. fin
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11-18-2023 , 04:19 PM
and worse, everyone in your government knew the entire time, and yet your shithead president kept going on tv lying about seeing pictures of decapitated babies etc in order to make it happen


the whole "imagine if trump did this" thing, yeah, imagine if trump did this, what would ppl be saying? right, they don't care #bluemaga
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11-18-2023 , 05:43 PM
To be fair the idea that this goes any different with Trump as president is laughable. If anything he jumps in on the Gaza genocide. America was always going to side with israel on this regardless of who was in charge

Netanyahu is one of the top 5 worst people alive. Any support of him and his policies is ****ing heinous and it is utterly exhausting that the entire western world doesn’t have the balls to take him to task on it because nobody wants to be perceived as antisemitic or siding with terrorists. Hamas exists as currently constructed ****ing because of Nuttyahoo
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11-18-2023 , 05:49 PM
The fact that it’s political suicide to side with Gaza is one of the saddest state of affairs today. I vaguely remember someone on the floor of congress saying ‘there is no such thing as an innocent Palestinian’

Genuinely exhausting and depressing
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11-18-2023 , 06:20 PM
This is good. Kid from rural Missouri

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11-18-2023 , 06:41 PM
story checks out
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11-18-2023 , 08:42 PM
Missouri Mudflap
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11-19-2023 , 08:52 AM
America is weak.

They fund Israel.

Which they can stop and use a leverage to end this.
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11-19-2023 , 12:26 PM
It’s wild because any nuanced criticism of Israel is treated in the same manner as dipshits like business daddy elon going whole ass antisemite

We just don’t live in a world where nuance is accepted. You either hate the Jews or your hate the Muslims, or you hate them both
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11-19-2023 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Chilltown
America is weak.

They fund Israel.

Which they can stop and use a leverage to end this.
That's not going to work. The money/weapons the US provides Isreal no longer makes up a significant portion of their defense budget (it's around 10%). They're simply too self-sufficient now.

There are other ways we can try and influence them, and we should definitely cut off any offensive aid, but what you're suggesting won't do anything.
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11-19-2023 , 04:17 PM
lol, they get all their weapons from you. there's a reason they immediately approved billions more, you're sending weapons daily. there's a bunch of stuff they use that is only made in usa#1. you sent thousands of troops and like 3 aircraft carriers over there to prevent anyone from stopping this. would have been over long ago if not for you, but hey, it's your military outpost in the middle east. foh with this smol bean there's nothing we can do bullshit. it's happening because this is precisely what they want. no red lines


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New numbers from Gaza’s Government Media Office about Israel’s destruction are horrifying:

- 13,000 killed, including more than 5,500 children & 3,500 women
- 201 medical staff, including doctors, nurses, and paramedics killed
- 22 civil defense personnel killed
- 60 journalists killed
- Over 6,000 missing, including more than 4,000 children & women.
- More than 30,000 injured, 75% of them women & children
- 25 hospitals & 52 health centers out of service
- Israel targeted 55 ambulances, while dozens of ambulances are out of service due to fuel depletion.
- 83 mosques completely destroyed, 166 mosques partially destroyed, 3 churches have been targeted
- The number of destroyed government headquarters is 97
- 262 schools were destroyed
- The number of residential units completely demolished is 43,000, in addition to 225,000 units that suffered partial demolition. That is 60% of residential units in the Gaza Strip either completely demolished or partially damaged and unfit for living.
we did it, genocide joe. still doing it, not gonna stop until everything's gone and everyone's dead. usa#1
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11-19-2023 , 05:15 PM
WWBSD?
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11-19-2023 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 72off
lol, they get all their weapons from you. there's a reason they immediately approved billions more, you're sending weapons daily. there's a bunch of stuff they use that is only made in usa#1. you sent thousands of troops and like 3 aircraft carriers over there to prevent anyone from stopping this. would have been over long ago if not for you, but hey, it's your military outpost in the middle east. foh with this smol bean there's nothing we can do bullshit. it's happening because this is precisely what they want. no red lines




we did it, genocide joe. still doing it, not gonna stop until everything's gone and everyone's dead. usa#1
those 6k missing are surely dead by now. and I think they stopped counting the dead like a week ago. the numbers are surely higher.

and dont forget that theres like 1.5m displaced and homeless at last count.

this is by far the most absurd thing I have seen in my life. granted I didnt see the Iraq War or any of that. I mean "see" in that its all over twitter and plain to everyone. Iraq and all these atrocities are obv and understood but you dont actually see them.
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11-19-2023 , 07:09 PM
yeah israel was claiming 20k killed weeks ago, before they destroyed gaza's ability to count the dead. throw in the subsequent starvation, dehydration, malnutrition, disease etc and the actual number of casualties are probably absurdly high right now


proportionally this is like the bombing of dresden + the siege of leningrad, worse than anything in recent memory*. we did it joe

* - though yeah i guess parts of iraq & afghanistan were also carpet-bombed into dust, but i'm guessing there was also a chance for ppl to flee the path of destruction, unlike here

Last edited by 72off; 11-19-2023 at 07:16 PM.
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11-19-2023 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 72off
lol, they get all their weapons from you. there's a reason they immediately approved billions more, you're sending weapons daily. there's a bunch of stuff they use that is only made in usa#1. you sent thousands of troops and like 3 aircraft carriers over there to prevent anyone from stopping this. would have been over long ago if not for you, but hey, it's your military outpost in the middle east. foh with this smol bean there's nothing we can do bullshit. it's happening because this is precisely what they want. no red lines
I know you're not seriously engaging here, but all of this is nonsense. Yeah, the House approved some crazy 15 billion package...that's not getting passed. The Iron Dome is defensive, but there are plenty of people that make rifles and bombs, and Isreal has enough money to get them from wherever they want. $3bln a year is a lot of money, but an almost $30bln/yr military budget is a lot of money too.

The US should absolutely remove offensive funding and do more to press for a peaceful solution, but the idea that anyone can just tell Isreal, a nuclear nation, to knock it off is farcical.
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11-19-2023 , 07:16 PM
lol
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11-19-2023 , 07:19 PM
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lol
Well said.

I'll grant that I'd had hoped Biden would've solved Middle-East peace by now (especially after Kushner failed), but maybe I was too hopeful.
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11-19-2023 , 07:21 PM
yeah he's a real problem-solver
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11-19-2023 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 72off
yeah israel was claiming 20k killed weeks ago, before they destroyed gaza's ability to count the dead. throw in the subsequent starvation, dehydration, malnutrition, disease etc and the actual number of casualties are probably absurdly high right now


proportionally this is like the bombing of dresden + the siege of leningrad, worse than anything in recent memory*. we did it joe

* - though yeah i guess parts of iraq & afghanistan were also carpet-bombed into dust, but i'm guessing there was also a chance for ppl to flee the path of destruction, unlike here
they are literally digging people out by hand. anyone under the rubble has a small chance of being alive long enough to be extracted.

why? bc Israel doesnt allow hardly any heavy machinery into Gaza. so its not like they can just pick up the 1000 lbs of concrete. too bad so sad shoulda denounced Hamas now you die at 6 years old of dehydration underneath rubble suffering in the darkness for 3 days while your whole family is next to you.

remember to VoteBloooNoMattaWhoo
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11-19-2023 , 08:29 PM
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BREAKING: Biden’s standing hits new lows amid Israel-Hamas war. The erosion is most pronounced among Dems, a majority of whom believe Israel has gone too far in Gaza. Among voters ages 18-34, 70% of them disapprove of his handling of the war.
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2024 National GE:

Generic Republican 48% (+11)
Joe Biden 37%

Generic Democrat 46% (+6)
Donald Trump 40%

NBCNews, 1,000 RV, 11/10-14

he could easily solve 1 problem by throwing his stupid, racist, pudding-brained ass down a flight of stairs
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11-19-2023 , 08:43 PM
Hamas used the tiny amount of heavy machinery available in gaza to bust through the wall and kill as many Jewish civilians as possible, so i get why Israel would seek to limit their access to bulldozers and such
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11-19-2023 , 08:48 PM
nah they were just taking hostages, the iof rolled in with tanks & attack choppers and blasted everyone. they should be limited, instead they get no red lines. oh well
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11-19-2023 , 08:58 PM
All the burned bodies that Israel claimed were from Hamas just torching people for fun and that BOIDs and the racist libs lapped up like proper pig slop were actually incinerated by USA Hellfire missiles.
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11-20-2023 , 04:42 AM
On both points,

There are hundreds of survivor accounts which state otherwise

Hamas murdered many hundreds of civilians on Oct 7, and that is not in question. I understand that you would both like that not to be true, but it is in fact true
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