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Originally Posted by Victor
Establishment democrats ideas don't win elections. We have irrefutable proof of that. Might as well try for the ideas that are best and help society the most.
He says, immediately following a race won by the most establishment guy who ever establishmented.
I mean, your point is way to broad to be worth breaking down, but yeah, establishment/moderate stuff can win, so can progressive ideas. So can conservative ideas. Politics is complicated yo