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03-05-2016 , 03:59 PM
This is as good as it is going to get itt for my blood pressure so I really should just stop here and not open it again until December

See you guys in 45 minutes, maybe an hour
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03-05-2016 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
Yeah. Like, I'm voting for Trump it comes to it and I like arguing about it online and trolling a bit but it's not going to affect most of the people here one way or another. I've still never voted so I don't know if I'll even be bothered to when the time comes. I'll hope Hillary does good. But really well have to just hope some younger Bernie or not as horrible Trump comes along and it'll be 8 more years before anything fixed.
and another climb down

is that everyone?
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03-05-2016 , 04:03 PM
If I could hit reset and get a whole new set of candidates with Clinton in the mix and not Trump, I would do it in a second.

Can we get some of the Hillary supporters explaining what she is so great at and how she will be so good for us?
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03-05-2016 , 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Legend
Are you expecting me to defend Trump U?

What are you asking, seriously? Because I would vote for Trump over Hillary I supposedly share 100% of his views?

I think the Clinton Foundation, Hillary's absolute disregard for protocols and security, handling of important issues as Sec of State, and overall life's work is a worse resume than I do Trump.

You can keep going "Hey Larry, omg Donald Trump ordered prostitute twins and had a threesome! Please defend paid incest!"

But you are only impressing yourself, if that.
Yeah I love how they just ignore all the reasons why people itt are voting for Trump and just firing all these gotcha talking points like it invalidates anything. NOBODY HERE THINKS TRUMP IS GREAT. HE'S A DICKHEAD AND A RACIST. We're voting for him IN SPITE OF those things so pointing out more examples of his dickheadness and racism isn't going to change anyone's mind.

You'd have a better chance of changing minds by arguing why Hillary would be good rather than just bashing Trump over and over. That's a much harder task and not as fun for u all tho.
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03-05-2016 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Pwn_Master
No, my description regarding hatred of Obama applies to 90+% of Trumpites, probably more, regardless of the exact reason percentage this is the genesis and driving force behind the Trump movement. That a small percentage have chosen to associate with this despicable lot based on an underpants gnome theory doesn't make me a liar. Sorry.

Probably a good time to repost this.
Drumpf's cult isn't mimicking Drumpf. Drumpf is mimicking his cult.

I'll never forget that South Carolina event he had after San Bernadino where all these people were proudly attaching their names to some heinous anti-Muslim opinions. Racists think of Drumpf as their voice of the voiceless and Drumpf sees them as an untapped group of people who boost his bottom line and help him in a clown car of a race where he only needs a plurality

I could live with this show continuing if this cesspool of humanity didn't think Drumpf's relevance validates their racism and makes it acceptable for them to crawl out of the rocks they live under.

And that's the question I have for Drumpfers. How do you reconcile this with yourself morally that your best defense of this is that Drumpf isn't actually a bigot but is just faking being one to get votes? How is that ok to you?
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03-05-2016 , 04:09 PM
Also for all of you not in favor of Trump vs Hillary, you are missing out on possibly the greatest and most entertaining political debates in our lifetimes.

Last episode Trump said he had a huge dick.

Calling Hillary's marriage a joke, talking about Bill getting blown by Monica, and questioning if Hillary is only with him for power..

There's so much more room to grow.
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03-05-2016 , 04:14 PM
The racist idiots who support trump and blame immigrants for their place in the world will be getting zero in the way of economic help from a Trump presidency. There is no way he does anything to help that socio-economic class of people. So while it is unfortunate they are supporting him, I can at least justify that their lives will get no better and this is an opportunity for them to out they are racists and deal with the repurcussions that happens to outed racist people.

Basically no matter what we aren't in a good spot here, acting like Hillary is a fist pump vote is lol.
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03-05-2016 , 04:14 PM
There seems to be a communication problem.

Trump can't accomplish the nebulous good things that you guys want, but he can energize racism.

You guys hear that argument and you only say that racism is a dead horse because it's not fun for you to explain how the former can happen.
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03-05-2016 , 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Legend
Also for all of you not in favor of Trump vs Hillary, you are missing out on possibly the greatest and most entertaining political debates in our lifetimes.

Last episode Trump said he had a huge dick.

Calling Hillary's marriage a joke, talking about Bill getting blown by Monica, and questioning if Hillary is only with him for power..

There's so much more room to grow.
Yeah that would be amazing. There's no chance he doesn't take it there and take it even lower. He'll basically just ignore every question and turn it into Benghazi and

She ler her husband get oral sex from another person and publicly humiliate her and didn't do anything about it . Weak. Weak leadership. Ladies watching at home I know you wouldnt have let your husbands get away with that. Don't get me wrong, I love oral sex, but I love it from my beautiful wife Melania and only my wife. And that I can tell you.
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03-05-2016 , 04:18 PM
The good things he will create are:

A) the GOP waking the **** up and becoming a respectable political party

B) rebuilding the infrastructure of america

C) avoiding costly wars

D) shrinking government regulation and regulatory bodies

E) being stonewalled by CHECKS AND BALANCES from doing crazy stuff

What I would love is if he came back to the liberal social agenda and started talking 100% about building roads, bridges, fiber, trains, etc.
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03-05-2016 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Legend
The racist idiots who support trump and blame immigrants for their place in the world will be getting zero in the way of economic help from a Trump presidency. There is no way he does anything to help that socio-economic class of people. So while it is unfortunate they are supporting him, I can at least justify that their lives will get no better and this is an opportunity for them to out they are racists and deal with the repurcussions that happens to outed racist people.

Basically no matter what we aren't in a good spot here, acting like Hillary is a fist pump vote is lol.
1) Hillary is only a fist pump against Trump
2) Exactly how is Obama Lite bad for you? Doom and gloom unsupported by evidence. Can't believe you're naive enough to think Bad Hillary Stuff wouldn't happen under Trump. Like what would that even be? Cronyism? Trump won't have cronyism? That's cute. Anti-business? The Clintons always go with that Third Way **** that businesses can exploit.
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03-05-2016 , 04:21 PM
how is legitimising and empowering the worst section of the GOP base going to make it a better party going forward
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03-05-2016 , 04:23 PM
Lol at Louis CK penning that whining jeremiad. Go back to locking women in hotel rooms and beating off in front of them you degenerate.
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03-05-2016 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
Yeah I love how they just ignore all the reasons why people itt are voting for Trump and just firing all these gotcha talking points like it invalidates anything. NOBODY HERE THINKS TRUMP IS GREAT. HE'S A DICKHEAD AND A RACIST. We're voting for him IN SPITE OF those things so pointing out more examples of his dickheadness and racism isn't going to change anyone's mind.

You'd have a better chance of changing minds by arguing why Hillary would be good rather than just bashing Trump over and over. That's a much harder task and not as fun for u all tho.
The argument for Hillary is that she is a soulless tool that can be used to move things in the right direction. Most likely all she will be able to accomplish is stemming off a lot of people with bad ideas/motivations. Keep the GOPe/Trump from making things worse, appoint a couple SCOTUS judges whose influence will last a generation and anything else is a bonus. Not exactly inspiring but that is a realistic assessment of where we are.
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03-05-2016 , 04:24 PM
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how is legitimising and empowering the worst section of the GOP base going to make it a better party going forward
Because the party of racism is better than the party of empire and labor arbitrage
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03-05-2016 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Legend
The racist idiots who support trump and blame immigrants for their place in the world will be getting zero in the way of economic help from a Trump presidency. There is no way he does anything to help that socio-economic class of people. So while it is unfortunate they are supporting him, I can at least justify that their lives will get no better and this is an opportunity for them to out they are racists and deal with the repurcussions that happens to outed racist people.

Basically no matter what we aren't in a good spot here, acting like Hillary is a fist pump vote is lol.
why do you end every terrible post justifying trump with a one-liner on hillary?
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03-05-2016 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Legend
The good things he will create are:

A) the GOP waking the **** up and becoming a respectable political party
Lol no way. The good things will be completely ending them as we know it. They'll have nothing without the support of Trumps poor and racist supporters. There are not enough "sane" aka scumbag Republicans out there for the party to exist. Kasich is getting like 6% of the votes lol.
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03-05-2016 , 04:34 PM
ted cruz now more likely to win the repub nom than marco rubio according to betfair
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03-05-2016 , 05:05 PM
Just going to leave this here

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03-05-2016 , 05:18 PM
Trump is literally making everyone at his rally right now raise their right hand and give him a pledge to always support him, no matter what, and vote for him on March 15th.

Not a joke.

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03-05-2016 , 05:20 PM
Cruz crushing in Kansas early in the day could help him in other states today perhaps.
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03-05-2016 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Legend
The good things he will create are:

A) the GOP waking the **** up and becoming a respectable political party

B) rebuilding the infrastructure of america

C) avoiding costly wars

D) shrinking government regulation and regulatory bodies

E) being stonewalled by CHECKS AND BALANCES from doing crazy stuff

What I would love is if he came back to the liberal social agenda and started talking 100% about building roads, bridges, fiber, trains, etc.
B, everybody wants to do, but nobody wants to pay for it. No reason to think Trump has any advantage here, but okay if you think so.

C, there is no reason to believe he would be better on this. He said the Iraq war was a mistake, so what, Hillary has said this as well. He has a belligerent temperament/personality and belligerent rhetoric re: foreign policy. The very first thing he says he wants to do is try to force another sovereign nation to build a wall and that is just the start of his crazy talk!

D, okay, maybe this would be a good thing. It is strange that people are furious that no one went to jail for the meltdown, but also want less regulations. And don't think cronyism is the explanation for no jail. Hillary is at least towards the middle on this, but see why this could be a point in favor of Trump.

E, this is where you are dead wrong. Right now all that is stopping Congress from doing crazy **** they promised is that they can't w/o the Presidency. These people are furious that they have been "lied to" and that is why they are flocking to Trump. If Trump is elected, you will have a Congress that promised to do crazy ****, a President that promised to do crazy ****, and a frothy base that is not in the mood for anymore excuses.
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03-05-2016 , 05:48 PM
You just don't understand the surgical reduction of regulations they'll perform.

LL always says regulatory agencies instead of regulations. Is it strictly a funding thing?
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03-05-2016 , 05:50 PM
tedmentum eating into drumpf equity, up to 1.65
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03-05-2016 , 06:07 PM
Kansas, Maine, and CPAC cruzing
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