seek therapy

Sorry 72off, you've been added to my incel list. I'm sure you brought something rather interesting to the table per usual, though.

thank the gods


though you should be reading my posts, you'd learn a lot

Seadood, you realize your entire SC part of your post is wrong.
https://twitter.com/tysonbrody/statu...521073154?s=19

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Trump needs to be beaten bc he does the same thing the libs did in the primary to beat the left.

I am not gonna do a deep dive into these comments and any articles that may be associated. But nothing that Bernie said in those comments had anything to do with "defunding" the police. He was quite clearly talking about the idea of removing them or not.

The police cost vastly more money than any other public service. So called left wing liberals dont come together like this when the idea of defunding schools, Medicare, Social Security, Food Stamps, Affordable Housing and all other public amenities.

this is all you have. the height of disingenuous. but no I dont support Trump and its for the same reason I dont support Biden. their policies are too similar. like how they align on the recent hot button issue of defunding the police.

Even if the numbers were true, which they aren’t if you bother to fact check, how does that change anything about what I said though? His camp knew S.C. was his shot, and that the black vote makes up the majority. How does White voters showing up en masse change anything?

Or is it the Texas speech where he, in front of mostly blacks, said the increase in voter turnout (from 2016, he gaffed) was because of them instead of including whites? What a huge error! He should have never empowered or over-thanked them, after all their numbers didn’t increase as much as whites, right? Come on. His speeches in S.C. and Texas were what propelled his campaign, and it was in large part because he treated blacks like they saved him and not the other way around.

So where did he tactically go wrong in your opinion?

What do you mean aren't true? There's a link to the numbers in the tweet.

2016: 126,643 White, 244,221 Non-White
2020: 268,585 White, 268,355 Non-White

It was an off year election, but given everything is about Trump (and that we actually flipped SC-1 in 2018, which was a huge longshot), it seems reasonable to include 2018 too (95531 White, 152582 Non-White).

That makes it:
2016: 65.8% Nonwhite
2018: 61.5% Nonwhite
2020: 50% Nonwhite

It was 68.3% Nonwhite in 2014 so there's a pretty clear trend forming. Granted, even when you include the intervening elections, it's still a huge uptick in white voter turnout.

He also makes a point about the change in youth turnout since 2016, but 2018 makes the move a little less surprising:

2018:
18-24: 1.7%
25-44: 20.8%
45-64: 38.7%
65+: 38.6%

2020:
18-24: 2.4%
25-44: 25.4%
45-64: 37.2%
65+: 34.8%

So when Los Angeles mayor Garcetti defunds the police by $150 million and redistributes those funds to “black communities and communities of color”, where does the money go exactly? Honest question.

150 is not even a drop in the bucket of their funding, but it probably goes to random poorer communities and funds stuff like nutrition programs for schools, after school programs etc.

While we have focused on defending the police because they're racist and violent, it should also be noted that they're not particularly good at solving crimes. For the gigantic budget increases they have received in basicslly every major North American city, this hasn't translated to increased clearance rates for violent crime. That we've exploded their budgets but not gotten better results id absolutely scandalous.

Classic gaffe by Seadood, being factually wrong then smugly doubling down despite being linked the correct data nicely. Smokin’ Joe would be proud.

it gets funneled to his cronies companies. proly dont even need to go thru shells.

I'm not sure why Victor, 72o, Jake777887, etc have such a hard time with this. None fo the quoted tweets say anything about not wanting to defund the police, just that the actual wording "Defund the Police" is misunderstood by a large portion of the population (even if they are mostly mouthbreathers) who think it means that we want to completely wipe out the police. All of the MAGA chuds I went to school think this way.

We know that Defund the Police means we want to cut their ridiculously bloated budget and use that money elsewhere to better our communities. All the idiots hear is that there aren't going to be any police to respond to their 911 calls when the scary brown people break into their houses. Trump is going to use this to rally his base of morons and they will all eat it up. The goal is the same, the wording could be better. Everyone attacking Dood for stuff like this is ridiculous.

Agreed.

Demilitarize the police is so clearly better.

The “MAGA Chuds” you went to school with are NEVER going to support moving funds from BLUE LIVES to what they consider welfare programs regardless of wording or branding. JFC, how can you guys possibly think this?

I can imagine all of you guys on Trump’s advisory team saying that BUILD THE WALL is a bad slogan, and the progressives will think it’s racist and RALLY THEIR BASE, so we should switch it to something like “safe, legal immigration only and more jobs for American workers”, which will totes get them on board with building the wall for that purpose.

It's not even the MAGA chuds. You could call it anything you want and chuds gonna chud, it's the moderate wing of your own side.

This thread oscillates between thinking moderates don't exist to thinking they do, but they're really Republicans so whatever. In reality, the Democrats are a mostly moderate party (the thread knows this too, which is odd), so running with something that's going to be super popular to the smaller slice of your party, but unpopular to the larger piece isn't very smart.

It seems like pushing for a "Community Policing" label or something is a gimmie here. The Tucker Carlsons of the world are still going to do their thing, but what college-educaed, suburban white woman is going to stay home for that?

I wish some went towards your English edumucation.

i mean one of the reasons i mostly stopped engaging seriously itt is that it's clear that no one actually reads those posts, so whatever


anyway...

lolol

dood basically saying fake facts and vici basically plagiarizing Wiki like his boy Biden did in 88...






...should we really be surprised at this point..

the idiots think that bc both the right wingers and the shitlibs are promoting such a viewpoint.

we have been going thru austerity since the Reagan years. this includes incessant calls to defund the all public amenities such as schools, health care, roads, social security, etc. one would think that when people would be scared of the actual threat of these measures. but since the shitlibs are not only fine with such cuts but actually believe in them there is no organized campaign to illustrate the actual real negative effects like this propaganda around "defund" the police.

d00d gets crap from us bc he uncritically supports the people in power who have caused and continue to cause all of these issues.

yeah, I get that. Its not just the MAGA chuds though. They are the ones that eat it up and scream it from the mountaintop with dear leader though, which further reinforces it and gives the moderates another reason to justify a vote for Trump. It's not just black and white like you guys seem to think it is, there are shades of grey.

My mistake AoFrantic, I flipped the 2016 numbers during fact-checking. It wasn't cool to come at you like that, even though my point still stands.

I don't uncritically support anyone though, which I've gone from like to dislike and vice versa on so many candidates.

You guys give me and vin crap because we make fun of the group that you sort of belong to, which ironically is generally uncritical of their own bullshit and hypocrisies. The republican shitlib centrist democrats are completely aware of their candidate's flaws and completely aware of how corrupt the system is, they just have different ideas on how to fix it.

seadood: an uncritical biden bro who accidentally voted for bernie in the primary