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06-08-2020 , 08:01 PM
Seadood, hypothetically speaking can someone run a masterful campaign to achieve objectively evil aims?
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06-08-2020 , 08:06 PM
Socialists, if you really want Trump to lose, leave it up to the people who ran a successful campaign at least once to handle things.



Except we know you don't want him to lose.
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06-08-2020 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Jake7777
Seadood, hypothetically speaking can someone run a masterful campaign to achieve objectively evil aims?
Of course.
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06-08-2020 , 08:09 PM
so to summarize, defunding the police should def be part of the dem's police reform strategy, that should be called something else, if the phrase "defund the police" is too confusing/upsetting to the morans, many of whom actually do want to literally defund the police

this shouldn't be hard given that the dem's 1 strength is giving dumb names to their policies that generally obscure everything about them


of course this won't happen bc the dems don't actually want to defund the police, or reform them much

creepy joe saying today that he wants to increase their funds, to pay for all these pointless new training programs etc lol
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06-08-2020 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Seadood228
Of course.

So assume for a second that not all of us take it on faith that Biden’s secret core beliefs are all that great and please explain what him running a great campaign is meant to be evidence of
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06-08-2020 , 08:20 PM
My favorite part is at :42 where Bernie's top asset swoops in to save the day.

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06-08-2020 , 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Jake7777
So assume for a second that not all of us take it on faith that Biden’s secret core beliefs are all that great and please explain what him running a great campaign is meant to be evidence of
It's not supposed to be evidence of anything. My original point is, and it speaks to all of the vitriol on this very subforum, is that the mockery of his campaign has been a whole lot of showing your entire ass.
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06-08-2020 , 08:27 PM
defunding the police is absolutely something that everyone on the left should support. do you guys realize how much more money the police get than all other things like roads and schools?

looking at hundreds of millions getting thrown into the police while schools go bankrupt and being like nope, cant defund them. gotta give them all the money just so how disgusting and deplorable liberals are. they are literally siding with Trump supporters and conservatives and for what? what benefit do they get? none, they are doing it just to spite the leftists. scratch a liberal and all. it gets old after awhile.
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06-08-2020 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Seadood228
My favorite part is at :42 where Bernie's top asset swoops in to save the day.

and proving my point immediately. liberals now believe in absolutely nothing except attacking the left. what a miserable lot. at least the conservatives actually win. but you guys believe in nothing and revel in hypocrisy and still lose.
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06-08-2020 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jake7777
Thats not messaging, thats arguing for something different altogether

Also you campaign to change peoples minds I thought. Some campaigns take a while. I bet #segregationreform would have kicked ass though?
Claude is a terrible grifter and DC are nazis, we don't have to quote them.
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06-08-2020 , 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Seadood228
It's not supposed to be evidence of anything. My original point is, and it speaks to all of the vitriol on this very subforum, is that the mockery of his campaign has been a whole lot of showing your entire ass.
Last Canadian election, Singh and the NDP ran the best campaign. Trudeau ran a bad campaign, but was helped that the conservatives ran an awful campaign. The NDP got crushed, but this doesn't mean Trudeau ran a good campaign and he ran a much better one than Biden has.
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06-08-2020 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jake7777
So assume for a second that not all of us take it on faith that Biden’s secret core beliefs are all that great and please explain what him running a great campaign is meant to be evidence of
No Dood, but I took his assertion that Biden ran a great campaign to be evidence that he believes he ran a great campaign.

Not that success necessarily means that, results oriented thinking an all, but that seemed like the point.
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06-08-2020 , 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RT
No Dood, but I took his assertion that Biden ran a great campaign to be evidence that he believes he ran a great campaign.

Not that success necessarily means that, results oriented thinking an all, but that seemed like the point.
I'd also like to add that Trump didn't run a good campaign in 16 either! He just got to face Hillary. When the Knicks and Bulls play each other, someone has to win. Doesn't make the winner a great team.
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06-08-2020 , 08:52 PM
Biden has run like a 3/10 campaign at best, Dood is probably more brain-addled than Biden at this point.

As for what’s been accomplished, plenty still to come, but most notably, MPD is being disbanded. Been tons of other stuff and Overton window shifting as well. More arguing against correct/good policy (which you totally support) but attacking the messaging. Absolutely clueless.
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06-08-2020 , 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Seadood228
Socialists, if you really want Trump to lose, leave it up to the people who ran a successful campaign at least once to handle things.



Except we know you don't want him to lose.
Hey guys, let's take this criticism from Mitch McConnell very seriously! I'm sure it's very genuine and well-intentioned.

Why is it when the left calls Trump/McConnell racist and a bigot, all they ever do is double and triple and quadruple down with the racism and bigotry. But when McConnell calls Democrats socialist and too extreme, Democrats are supposed to cave in and take the center-right position on everything? Why does that only ever work one way?

ps i didn't even watch the video. Unlike you most of us dgaf what Mitch McConnell thinks.
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06-08-2020 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Hellmuth was right
Hey guys, let's take this criticism from Mitch McConnell very seriously! I'm sure it's very genuine and well-intentioned.

Why is it when the left calls Trump/McConnell racist and a bigot, all they ever do is double and triple and quadruple down with the racism and bigotry. But when McConnell calls Democrats socialist and too extreme, Democrats are supposed to cave in and take the center-right position on everything? Why does that only ever work one way?

ps i didn't even watch the video. Unlike you most of us dgaf what Mitch McConnell thinks.

Amazing. Lol oh noes, Mitch McConnell criticized the plan. The left is finished!

Wonder why Dems always get ****-all done and everything “realistic” has shifted right recently
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06-08-2020 , 09:06 PM
Grunge: Biden’s best campaign is letting Trump campaign for him

Honestly at this point biden has more to lose by debating trump than trump does debating him. The moment this election stops being a referendum on Trump it becomes winnable for Trump
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06-08-2020 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Hellmuth was right
Hey guys, let's take this criticism from Mitch McConnell very seriously! I'm sure it's very genuine and well-intentioned.

Why is it when the left calls Trump/McConnell racist and a bigot, all they ever do is double and triple and quadruple down with the racism and bigotry. But when McConnell calls Democrats socialist and too extreme, Democrats are supposed to cave in and take the center-right position on everything? Why does that only ever work one way?

ps i didn't even watch the video. Unlike you most of us dgaf what Mitch McConnell thinks.
C'mon, you 100% already know the answer to this.
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06-08-2020 , 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Hellmuth was right
Hey guys, let's take this criticism from Mitch McConnell very seriously! I'm sure it's very genuine and well-intentioned.

Why is it when the left calls Trump/McConnell racist and a bigot, all they ever do is double and triple and quadruple down with the racism and bigotry. But when McConnell calls Democrats socialist and too extreme, Democrats are supposed to cave in and take the center-right position on everything? Why does that only ever work one way?

ps i didn't even watch the video. Unlike you most of us dgaf what Mitch McConnell thinks.
lol I didnt click that video either. he actually posted criticism from Mitch as sincere. just amazing.

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Amazing. Lol oh noes, Mitch McConnell criticized the plan. The left is finished!

Wonder why Dems always get ****-all done and everything “realistic” has shifted right recently
its not bc Dems are incompetent. its bc that is exactly what they want. its bc that is their purpose. look at all of this opposition to the defund the police movement. its not an accident. its a coordinated effort by the controled opposition. its sad to see all the useful idiots jump on board with out sort of self awareness or critical analysis.
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06-08-2020 , 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Seadood228
"defund the police"

[edit] I agree with what most are saying to do, however the wording is like chum to the GOP, and I could see lolestablishment refusing to vote if they keep this up.

Also, yhtsi.



Sooner or later his followers are going to have to come to grips with the fact that Biden ran and continues to run a phenomenal campaign.




Yeah I'm seeing those Biden bumper stickers and flags out there every ****ing day out....LMAO GTFO......
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06-08-2020 , 09:43 PM
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Yeah I'm seeing those Biden bumper stickers and flags out there every ****ing day out....LMAO GTFO......
clearly the best candidate is the one that sells the most bumper stickers. or even better: has a best selling book, perhaps on deals.
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06-08-2020 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
defunding the police is absolutely something that everyone on the left should support. do you guys realize how much more money the police get than all other things like roads and schools?

looking at hundreds of millions getting thrown into the police while schools go bankrupt and being like nope, cant defund them. gotta give them all the money just so how disgusting and deplorable liberals are. they are literally siding with Trump supporters and conservatives and for what? what benefit do they get? none, they are doing it just to spite the leftists. scratch a liberal and all. it gets old after awhile.

I'll do one better that gets everyone clutching their pearls...#defundthemilitary

That in it of itself is basically what this movement is only at a State and City level. Federally we still outspend countries 2 - 9 combined that can be better used for a million different things. Same thing here. Priorities have been out of wack forever because fear is a mother ****er and when used in certain circumstances, can become the most profitable commodity on the planet.
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06-08-2020 , 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by vinivici9586
clearly the winning candidate is the one that sells the most bumper stickers. or even better: has a best selling book, perhaps on deals.
FYP...I thought that's what you guys want to do right...and you need my help to do it...LOL...


idk I guess somehow i missed where all the excitement was...apparently it was...what was it again...


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Originally Posted by Seadood228

Sooner or later his followers are going to have to come to grips with the fact that Biden ran and continues to run a phenomenal campaign.

Phenomenal...that's right phenomenal. Like exciting...right. Like A+ Blockbuster and Groundbreaking...hahahahahahahahaha...if your gonna back him again I don't begrudge that choice it's yours...but ffs at least be on planet earth with some of these "hot takes".
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06-08-2020 , 10:16 PM
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Grunge: Biden’s best campaign is letting Trump campaign for him

Honestly at this point biden has more to lose by debating trump than trump does debating him. The moment this election stops being a referendum on Trump it becomes winnable for Trump
I am old enough to remember when Biden last did debates, and, like, he yelled a lot and used verbal crutches and wasn't especially inspiring but mostly because I didn't like his positions, but the notion that he's completely incoherent is absurd. He's not the same guy who rekt Sarah Palin, but he's also not staring at signage and then fabricating yarns about injecting bleach and getting sunshine up your arse.
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06-08-2020 , 10:53 PM
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I am old enough to remember when Biden last did debates, and, like, he yelled a lot and used verbal crutches and wasn't especially inspiring but mostly because I didn't like his positions, but the notion that he's completely incoherent is absurd. He's not the same guy who rekt Sarah Palin, but he's also not staring at signage and then fabricating yarns about injecting bleach and getting sunshine up your arse.
You guys speak the same olds talk. The DNC is still a joke for having that bag of skin as its choice.
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