its only bc of covid. its a dream scenario for establishment dems. winning by default makes nothing expected of them.

Baron Baron Trump scoffs at this prediction.

biden 2020: hope. change.

shitlibs: hell yeah!


literally the only thing they're going to do is get rid of bad orange man

and then as always they won't even prosecute anyone lol

now that OH is a swing state, victor will actually have to go to the polls to vote for Trump. Sad!

victor was voting trump regardless cause sometimes you just gotta stick it to the libs

Can this be your undertitle

Biden didn't run a good campaign, but the weird thing about American politics right now is that the "magic box" candidate polls better than anyone taking a ton of positions.

Yeah, that's not what I said tho.

"Defund the Police" encompasses a lot of different things, but to someone who hasn't looked into it, it sounds like "no more police" which both isn't practical and isn't what it means anyway.

It's catchy because it's simple and to the point, but it implies a level of action that most wouldn't support which makes it bad branding. Yeah, slogans crafted at riots arent usually focus grouped for efficacy, so whatever, but it doesn't change the fact that once things calm down a bit, and they will, #DtP isn't going to be something a presidential candidate can run on.

the libs are already trying to defang this movement and undermine any progress.

Jfc, it’s defund the police because the police are overfunded and we need to defund them. Either you agree with that concept or you don’t.

The fact that it seems extreme or that most people don’t understand it is a good reason to explain it to them. It’s not a good reason to keep overfunding them instead.

Is there someone standing behind me that's arguing with you? Defending the departments and putting that money into public health programs, crisis response, and mental health programs/centers are all things we should've been doing yesterday. None of that was the point.

it's a crooked system and only trump can save us

When you lose people is when you start treating everything as a branding exercise. You turn an honest, tangible demand into something that smells like bullshit and undermines it. People may not immediately warm to defunding the police, but they sure af aren’t going to get tricked into supporting #reformthepoliceforamerica or whatever squishy bullshit. It’s why people don’t like Elizabeth Warren, everything is PR and its impossible to tell what is real and what is bs positioning.

If you agree with defunding the police don’t argue with the slogan. Repeat it until 5 years from now it’s normalized and everyone knows about Camden and Minneapolis. We had liberals arguing like two years ago that Black Lives Matter was poor phrasing so gee gosh I agree but we need to find a softer way.

You aren’t going to backdoor your way to defunding the police you are just going to Warren yourself.

Do tell what the leftists accomplished in a few days.

Victor/Jake/AO, if you don't think Biden ran an amazing campaign I don't know what to tell you. His ads were some of the best I've ever seen. He spoke when he needed to and stfu when there was nothing to say. He survived the Tara Reade fiasco (that Victor still believes) without having to shame the victim in any way. He took what could have been a bad gaff, apologized almost immediately and used it the cycle to get a jab in at Donnie AND let the voting public know he's not going to dig in when he messes up, which resonated with against Mr. "I don't take any responsibility".

This after finessing his opponents Press Secretary and leaving him with someone who was woefully over her head.

I'm not sure what constitutes a great campaign if you think that one is bad. Is it losing in SC and having a disappointing Super Tuesday, then taking your ball and going home after promising to speak in the South while your opponents marches on Bloody Sunday?

This is absolute horse****. The slogan is everything to do with why it's bad. The only voters that can be swung now are the moderates, and a ill-worded slogan is the exact type of thing that the right will hammer into their conscience. That's like, campaigning 101.





^^^^ sorry for quoting DC, but the poll is from yougov.

I dont think Bernie had a good campaign, but I don't think Biden did just because he won.
I think it was the 02 Olympics where a speedskater won gold because everyone ahead of him wiped out on the final turn. That's effectively the Biden campaign. He won, but saying he did anything great to deserve it is a bit much.

remember when the bros were all like WhErEs JoE BiDeN?

another sleight of hand from the libs is using the description of good campaign as the equivalent of a good politician who will do good things. running a good campaign means **** all about having a positive impact and making good changes. you know who ran a good campaign? Trump.

Thats not messaging, thats arguing for something different altogether

Also you campaign to change peoples minds I thought. Some campaigns take a while. I bet #segregationreform would have kicked ass though?

everything about this post is pathetic. and everything about it perfectly encapsulates the lib mindset. right down to quoting a white nationalist publication.

They are trying to own a movement that the far left is trying to not only take credit for, but undermine.

fyp

It's the numbers, not the publication. I know you don't like to read by those were taken from yougov.

Here's a picture for those that don't read.

I know you root for the Cavs who have different motivations, but did you know the object of a basketball game is to win? Doing what puts you in the best position to win is the very definition of running a good campaign. I don't think Trump's was good, but Hillary's was one of the worst. What part of Biden's campaign did you think was bad?