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Old 06-01-2020, 02:36 PM   #53351
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I think Bernie's gotten worse. I knew of the stories about him being a dickhead, but I didn't think he'd wait two days to address the Floyd murder and then mix in a quarter sentence of empathy with his usual rant about class inequality.

Most importantly, and I realize this isn't necessarily HIS fault, I didn't realize what a crock of **** the media that support him is. You've got the Reade story that Grim/Halper/Robinson beat to death despite no vetting and more holes than cheese-grater, and then you have two grifters in Shaun King and Krystal Ball representing him.

It's extremely disappointing to someone on the outside.
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Old 06-01-2020, 02:37 PM   #53352
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So you didn't read. I figured you wouldn't. Would you if she were a white male?

Some of us actually read up on these people before drawing conclusions. Weird how she was out there joining the protests if she approved of all that's going on now. Meanwhile tone-deaf Bernie and the rest of his crew are doing ****-all about this as usual except trying to lump white people in and making it about class. Remember what I said about reading the room?
I read it. I also read about Harris's time as DA in SF. She was "tough on crime" when it was to her advantage and when she could use to take out an actual Progressive by stoking fear and courting the Police Union.

And now that there is backlash against such policing and Progressive policies are popular there is massive revisionism about her career and her preferences.

But really the only thing she has going is the identity politics. Thats why its funny to hear you accuse others of being "woke" when the essence of "wokeness" is that certain people's race or gender or sexual preference make them qualified and unable to be questioned.

Cant go after Kamala bc shes a black women. Doesnt matter that she was awful prosecutor and has no credibility as an actual Progressive. Shes black and a women so any sort of criticism is obv racism and misogyny. Pay no attention to her policies and her history.
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Old 06-01-2020, 02:45 PM   #53353
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thinman is more coherent & grounded than dood ... upset of the century?
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Old 06-01-2020, 02:46 PM   #53354
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The comment came before he said he was thrown in jail. I don't have a time machine, nor am I clairvoyant unfortunately. I think what he did was honorable, just as I think fighting for neighborhoods is. There are funds he can use to reimburse his bail, I have donated to them as as noted cop Kamala Harris. (only for MN though)

My comment was made in regard to something previous Pocketchads said directly @me, which was:






Which yeah, I thought was funny considering I was doing something similar at the time he mentioned it. I WAS helping my worst off neighbors, and I WAS fighting to remove rent. The difference was that the person I was fighting was my wife. And the fight was whether we should take our at the time 8 week old's college fund and apply it to our mortgages so that the eight families that live in our rental units didn't have to pay rent, even though only four units reported lost jobs/furloughs. And whether I should un-retire, risk getting by putting my son in daycare, and take my lazy ass back to work.

So yeah, I thought it was funny when he said that. Some of us actually do care, even us scumbag disgraces.
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Old 06-01-2020, 02:50 PM   #53355
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I think Bernie's gotten worse. I knew of the stories about him being a dickhead, but I didn't think he'd wait two days to address the Floyd murder and then mix in a quarter sentence of empathy with his usual rant about class inequality.

Most importantly, and I realize this isn't necessarily HIS fault, I didn't realize what a crock of **** the media that support him is. You've got the Reade story that Grim/Halper/Robinson beat to death despite no vetting and more holes than cheese-grater, and then you have two grifters in Shaun King and Krystal Ball representing him.

It's extremely disappointing to someone on the outside.

Bernie addressed it on Twitter roughly 24 hours after Floyd’s death (and the same day as most of the details of the story hit)

Here’s what Bernie said:

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Old 06-01-2020, 03:21 PM   #53356
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Bernie addressed it on Twitter roughly 24 hours after Floyd’s death (and the same day as most of the details of the story hit)

Here’s what Bernie said:

I was referring to something spoken, but even this seems really callous. Imagine seeing this after an such an open wound, wouldn't that ring hollow? Now contrast that with what my new hero Joe Biden said:


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Old 06-01-2020, 03:34 PM   #53357
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i don't get it man, did bernie **** your wife or something?
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Old 06-01-2020, 03:34 PM   #53358
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agreed. @Sea obvs lol

tune in to watch me read some prepared platitudes.. yadda yadda

sadly, there's nothing really to be done. humans aren't capable of cohesion, history has proven this definitively

I'm ready, I guess, for the abolish-the-police experiment to commence, and the resultant chaos that would dwarf this historic, nationwide riotous chaos.
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Old 06-01-2020, 03:40 PM   #53359
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the nerf discussion that needs to take place actually started today between Rush Limbaugh and 3 syndicated hosts of The Breakfast Club radio program.

they arrived at the 'need to dismantle the racist apparatus' os.
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Old 06-01-2020, 03:52 PM   #53360
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Old 06-01-2020, 04:20 PM   #53361
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i don't get it man, did bernie **** your wife or something?
Nah she's more a Biden guy.

When you admire someone and they disappoint you, that admiration has a tendency to turn into animosity.
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Old 06-01-2020, 04:26 PM   #53362
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Maybe an old Jewish guy from a small super-white state isn't the guy to take the lead on this one?

I'd rather hear from Ja Rule.
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Old 06-01-2020, 04:37 PM   #53363
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Mostly just going by what I've seen of Charlamagne on Colbert and Dave, but the Breakfast club is garbage and panders to audiences just as dumb(but think they are smart) as Limbaugh's.
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Old 06-01-2020, 04:39 PM   #53364
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THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX HERE GUISE, HOW BOUT IF WE GAVE COPS THE GREEN LIGHT TO BLOW THE LEGS OFF OF UNARMED PPL!?! looooool


between this and shillary yammering on about how she'd project a pride flag on to the white house instead of turning the lights off ... absolutely perfect illustration of the vote blue no matter who impotence
See this is where you lose me, we can't even have a normal conversation. Did you actually listen to what he said, or did you copy that from Ryan Knight's twitter? You forgot where he said "unarmed guy WITH A KNIFE or something." He's arguing to NOT use deadly force when a perceived threat is there instead of killing someone.

It sounds dumb to me because he's not an expert in the field, but it's far from encouraging BLOWING THE LEGS OFF PEOPLE. He's advocating for less violent means of confronting a threat, not more as you're suggesting.

The real argument is what constitutes a perceived threat, but that didn't appear to be in the scope of their conversation from the parts I heard.

i don't get it man, did Biden **** your dog or something?
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Old 06-01-2020, 04:46 PM   #53365
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Independent autopsy shows death by asphyxiation. The real question is: why does it matter?

Cop used an unapproved technique with entirely too much force, for entirely too long, with callous indifference and disregard for the man's safety. Who gives a **** if he died because he cut off his oxygen or triggered a heart attack. He's guilty of the charges against him either way.
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Old 06-01-2020, 04:57 PM   #53366
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Independent autopsy shows death by asphyxiation. The real question is: why does it matter?

Cop used an unapproved technique with entirely too much force, for entirely too long, with callous indifference and disregard for the man's safety. Who gives a **** if he died because he cut off his oxygen or triggered a heart attack. He's guilty of the charges against him either way.

Because 1 out of 4 is not enough.
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Old 06-01-2020, 05:00 PM   #53367
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Independent autopsy shows death by asphyxiation. The real question is: why does it matter?

Cop used an unapproved technique with entirely too much force, for entirely too long, with callous indifference and disregard for the man's safety. Who gives a **** if he died because he cut off his oxygen or triggered a heart attack. He's guilty of the charges against him either way.
The fact that there even needed to be a #2 is a travesty.

At this point, I have no idea how they are going to fix without getting in a time machine and murdering James Madison.

I don't see how defunding, or abolishing police is going to do anything but put minorities in the most vulnerable position possible.
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Old 06-01-2020, 05:24 PM   #53368
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Because 1 out of 4 is not enough.
Wat

All 4 are guilty LDO, but the ME report doesnt change that. Say he died of a preexisting condition or of asphyxia, whatever. It doesn't change what they did and that it's murder.

The fragility of a person you assault doesn't provide a defense for you if the person you assault dies.
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Old 06-01-2020, 05:26 PM   #53369
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Because 1 out of 4 is not enough.
There'll never be enough obsequiousness to satisfy.
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Old 06-01-2020, 05:28 PM   #53370
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Independent autopsy shows death by asphyxiation. The real question is: why does it matter?
Cop office pools need a definitive answer. Heart attack would hit some longshot odds.
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Old 06-01-2020, 05:28 PM   #53371
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Mostly just going by what I've seen of Charlamagne on Colbert and Dave, but the Breakfast club is garbage and panders to audiences just as dumb(but think they are smart) as Limbaugh's.
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Old 06-01-2020, 05:34 PM   #53372
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LOL...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCkgOpkD0iY


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Biden: "Black lives have been devalued by our society"

I WONDER WHY JOE...






and don't forget it was the Biden/Hatch bill as in Orrin Hatch who once said about Drumph

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'I don't think there's a racist bone in his body'

yet...




I mean he said again w/Charlamagne Tha God but that was overshadowed...#youaintblack


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I'm not black.

Yes we know...**** even Shillary had enough political awareness to try and bullshit/lie her way out of it during the '16 debates...she did say it was her husband's bill after all.
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Old 06-01-2020, 05:44 PM   #53373
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All 4 are guilty LDO, but the ME report doesn't change that. Say he died of a preexisting condition or of asphyxia, whatever. It doesn't change what they did and that it's murder.

The fragility of a person you assault doesn't provide a defense for you if the person you assault dies.
Huh your wat...1 out of 4 of the officers involved have been charged...the other 3 have not been charged. Did I miss a news clip or something that they were arrested.

They all need to go down. WTF are you even arguing! That's not even my point.

They need to provide as much pressure as possible on these clowns to get charges filed and the cops arrested. The Independent report today should be more pressure for them to act. It confirms what you and I know as common sense as we both have eyes and ears and can see and hear wtf happened. If it took less then a day for the Police Chief to fire all 4 why can't the DA get their **** together to prosecute the case and bring charges...that's my point.

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Old 06-01-2020, 06:02 PM   #53374
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Huh your wat...1 out of 4 of the officers involved have been charged...the other 3 have not been charged. Did I miss a news clip or something that they were arrested.

They all need to go down. WTF are you even arguing! That's not even my point.

They need to provide as much pressure as possible on these clowns to get charges filed and the cops arrested. The Independent report today should be more pressure for them to act. It confirms what you and I know as common sense as we both have eyes and ears and can see and hear wtf happened. If it took less then a day for the Police Chief to fire all 4 why can't the DA get their **** together to prosecute the case and bring charges...that's my point.
I'm not getting heated, I'm just confused by your point.

I said, why does it matter what the exact cause of death was since either cause is sufficient to warrant a conviction and you said "1 of 4 isn't enough".

You're right obv, but your point doesn't have anything to do with mine. They're just as guilty, both morally and legally, if the cause of death is asphyxia as if it's heart attack brought on via 9 minute knee. If the force is excessive, the CoD isn't material.

I don't think the CoD will make them more likely to arrest the other officers, when they should've done it already anyway.
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Old 06-01-2020, 06:18 PM   #53375
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To clarify the point is that I believe the county DA (before it got kicked up to the state DA last night) frankly is trying to tow the thin blue line and will use any excuse necessary to ensure he didn't have enough "evidence" to charge the other 3 officers. Obv. that's my pov...but it's not exactly out of left field either.

That said the state has the case now and hopefully they will do what the county hasn't been able to do.
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