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Old 05-21-2020, 08:01 PM   #53126
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we do: they were more accurate than in 2012.
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Old 05-21-2020, 08:27 PM   #53127
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congrats on the slight lead over a guy who has put 39m ppl out of work & killed 100k
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Old 05-21-2020, 11:20 PM   #53128
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So in the pie chart of this argument are you saying this is like 20% true...2%...what's the actual ranking here cause I got DNC/Obama/Corp Media horsetrade deal 1st....everything else a clear distant 2nd.
Who knows. It's all just best guess. Where you weight "Biden won because of name recognition and being a moderate" vs. "Biden won because of a conspiracy" likely correlates really heavily with how strongly you supported Bernie at the start of the primaries.

We know from years of study that name recognition is basically the most important factor in any election, but it's not like Bernie was some unknown upstart. It seems like the most likely narrative was that Bernie, the field's sole progressive, started out strong because his oppoents were a bunch of (varying degrees of) moderates. Once the field thined, support coalesced behind the most well known candidate, and there was considerably more support of the moderate option than the progressive.

Alternatively, everything was coming up Bernie, then the DNC, in conjunction with the Clintons and the reverse vampires, used the media to convince the people that Bernie couldn't win (despite having already won 3 of 3 primaries to that point) and that his policies weren't popular (despite being widely popular when polled).

The world may never know.
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Old 05-21-2020, 11:26 PM   #53129
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Americans in the top 30% of households are doing great.

Def sucks to be poor though.
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Old 05-22-2020, 12:30 AM   #53130
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Americans in the top 30% of households are doing great.

Def sucks to be poor though.





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Old 05-22-2020, 01:56 AM   #53131
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Old 05-22-2020, 01:58 AM   #53132
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We all know Trump is a moron. People should be doing what Pelosi is doing and be (feign being) embarrassed and "concerned" about him
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Old 05-22-2020, 03:36 AM   #53133
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Had to come back after seeing this, it's bonkers if cases start getting thrown out, or if she goes to jail the for the MSM actually doing their work:


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Old 05-22-2020, 06:56 AM   #53134
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but some good news!:

"CNBC @CNBC

American billionaires got $434 billion richer during the pandemic"

hmm, should they maybe be taxed in order to build a better world that works for all?
both parties: "lol, no"
This is fake news. They cherrypick the start as mid-March while the market tanked late-Feb [because of the pandemic]. Billionaires collectively are down money.
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Old 05-22-2020, 08:00 AM   #53135
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This is fake news. They cherrypick the start as mid-March while the market tanked late-Feb [because of the pandemic]. Billionaires collectively are down money.
oh wow something needs to be done of the poor billionaires are down money.
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Old 05-22-2020, 09:51 AM   #53136
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Had to come back after seeing this, it's bonkers if cases start getting thrown out, or if she goes to jail the for the MSM actually doing their work:

Tara Reade is gonna shoulder the blame for pretty much our entire corrupt justice system. like, sure the prosecutors just take her word. no need to vet.
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Old 05-22-2020, 11:25 AM   #53137
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uppity blacks are now asking Biden to actually improve things and not take their vote for granted. which is basically the same thing as supporting Trump.

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Old 05-22-2020, 12:13 PM   #53138
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Twitter doesn't do it justice...





...and btw...many people have looked at your record...prob shouldn't be bragging so much about that when google is right at their fingertips.
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Old 05-22-2020, 12:19 PM   #53139
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groundhog day starring creepy joey b
emerges from his hole once every 6 weeks to do something breathtakingly dumb
pretty funny how their best chance is if they just go FULL weekend at bidey's with him
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Old 05-22-2020, 12:36 PM   #53140
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For the first time, reporters were kicked off a Biden fundraising video call tonight -- it was with Wall Street execs and donors

lol
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Old 05-22-2020, 12:49 PM   #53141
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Seems like you should ask the black people who voted against Bernie in droves twice why they don't like him, because that is the biggest reason why he lost twice.

Survey says...





Keeping in that theme...

1. DNC consolidating their power day before Super Tuesday
2. Corp Media Bias
3. Olds > Youth
4. Not changing strategy heads up (still thinking he's playing full ring)
5. Not getting Liz to his side to endorse him/drop out after Amy and Pete were bought out


The Ethnicity demos et al at then end of the day are somewhat overrated. It's the deep dive in each demo that's more important.

Age group matters so much more than ethnicity in a major part because of how we as a society consume content. Olds watch Corp Media and do not in large part watch Independent Media (i.e. internet/podcasts). They just don't. Even using smartphones is a challenge for that demo. Technology in some cases have passed them by to the point it's not worth the effort to keep up. So when CNN/MSNBC do 24/7 anti-Bernie Propaganda and that's all the olds see, their opinion gets shaped. Then with enough consumption gets set in stone. That's because they generally don't care enough to want to find out more information that's relevant. They trust the bullshit that's being fed to them as fact and move on with their lives. Young people are more able to consume info at a higher rate. By nature are more curious about the context of things rather than take any singular source at face value, and will google search like hell to find what they need. Case in point how many people ITT are over 55...pretty sure it's less than the under 55 crowd.
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Old 05-22-2020, 12:51 PM   #53142
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Tara Reade is gonna shoulder the blame for pretty much our entire corrupt justice system. like, sure the prosecutors just take her word. no need to vet.
This is an interesting pivot, even for you Victor. And I was getting so used to Berniebros calling anyone who didn't believe her obvious BS story, including real victims, rape apologists.

moral compass tho

But yeah let's pivot to the next complaint without internalizing why the L's keep piling up.
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Old 05-22-2020, 01:21 PM   #53143
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Twitter doesn't do it justice...





...and btw...many people have looked at your record...prob shouldn't be bragging so much about that when google is right at their fingertips.

Yep, this is a serious problem with Biden. Even ignoring the obvious racial aspect here (which can’t and shouldn’t be ignored, but even just looking at this from the lens of vote acquisition), he takes this attitude often. He does the same thing at town halls when asked questions or challenged on his record, he would challenge the person to a fight, accuse them of supporting a different primary candidate, or tell them to go vote Trump. He doesn’t seem to be in the business of earning people’s votes which I find to be a pretty big issue. I get a sense of entitlement from him, like he doesn’t think he has to work to get anyone on his side or even answer any questions because he’s running against Trump.

That’s why I find it a bit bizarre when people think he’s a party uniting candidate - sure, never Trump Republicans and “centrists” will settle for him, but he’s not really about uniting the party, he’s just about being a Republican. He’s anti-unity in the sense that he gets super defensive and lashed out at people that aren’t already Joe Bros.
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Old 05-22-2020, 01:27 PM   #53144
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...and btw...many people have looked at your record...prob shouldn't be bragging so much about that when google is right at their fingertips.
You know how kids' immune systems get stronger when exposed to dirt? I think Biden thinks his teflon gets stronger when exposed to gaffes. (Just kidding, he was just speaking from the heart)

Does he ever say "ain't" except around black people?
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Old 05-22-2020, 01:29 PM   #53145
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Joe Biden vows not to raise taxes on anyone making under $400,000.

Biden on CNBC: "Nobody making under $400,000 would have their taxes raised. Period. bingo."

(Context: Obama said he wouldn't raise taxes on anyone making under $250,000)

#progress
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Old 05-22-2020, 01:33 PM   #53146
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Old 05-22-2020, 01:52 PM   #53147
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#progress
I don't even like defending Biden, but this is why I hate the f'in Bros.

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Elements of his policy menu include increasing the corporate tax rate to from 21% to 28%
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He's also seeking to tax capital gains and impose a new 12.4% payroll tax on high-earners and employers to shore up Social Security.
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He also slammed Amazon and said the company should begin paying their taxes.
Those quotes are literally from the same article. But nah, let's signal-boost the eight words that fires up my klan the most.
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Old 05-22-2020, 01:53 PM   #53148
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groundhog day starring creepy joey b
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pretty funny how their best chance is if they just go FULL weekend at bidey's with him
Yep. For people who think this kind of thing doesn't matter that much, this is an ongoing FB discussion regarding what Biden said (every person commenting is black)

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No way yall let that Joe Biden footage get out. Bro, theres NO WAY he said that, his team sees and hears him say that, and that audio/video sees the light of day. And THIS the man I'm supposed to vote for or else "You ain't black?"

You know how after Power or GoT, there's an explanation show to help viewers get a better understanding? I wish we had that IRL. I would sincerely pay just to know what he was thinking when he said it. Also, what message was he trying to get across? It came off TERRIBLY racist and "tone deaf." But I would like to believe (maybe naively) that he wouldn't say that with the same intention that he portrayed on that video chat screen
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What did he say and where can I find the footage?
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Twitter #YouAintBlack
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I just read about it....smh...
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Bruh... HOW? How does he say that?
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The same way he called President Obama the first mainstream African-American who is articulate, bright and clean...smh... Just a damn shame.
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Lol...the bad thing about It, even if Joe explains it, we wouldn’t be able to understand what he’s talking about without it still sounding bad. Horrible move
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Nah fam somebody gotta explain that. Even if he meant it "racistly." I still need to hear it. Make it make sense.
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He Just showing his true colors bro lol
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I think y'all taking it out of context. It's really based off your perception! Joe Biden has done more for blacks than many black people & I didn't vote for him. I actually agree with his statement. To me, he implies how black people pay attention to their surroundings or just pay attention. His statement was "if you can't tell who to vote for between me & Trump, then you ain't black." That would be based off what he has done & what Trump has done for blacks. Trump ain't did nothing. I didn't get racist or tone deaf
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But he ain't black, so he can't define mine or anyone else's blackness...
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the fact that you are ok with a 70+ year old white man telling us what it means to be black scares me. Especially when he makes himself the benchmark. So not the almost 500 years of history we have in this country (good and bad) but picking him over Trump is what makes us "black." I'm sincerely contemplating just sitting this election out and dealing with the ridicule. Cuz I'm sick and tired of the "pick your poison" routine.
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Still gonna vote for him
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Honestly fam IDK
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Man this has to be one of the lesser of two equals tho. The way that the country has been set back so many years these past 3 years, can only imagine what it’s gonna do in another 4. Never in my lifetime has it been so easy to disregard black life, and to blatantly show your disregard for black life, as it has been these past 3 years. And to have the president remain silent, or speak up in support of it, that will not do us any good
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But is the alternative better? Sure JB may not be ignorantly racist as DT. But bruh he's clearly losing his mental faculties and he might be as racist as Trump just better at hiding it.
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Old 05-22-2020, 02:01 PM   #53149
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I don't even like defending Biden
lol


there's no good reaason to go backwards on any of this, especially in the context of 2020, both before and especially after covid #weareallinthistogether

also, here's a thought, maybe if you don't want ppl "taking things out of context", don't say things like "Nobody making under $400,000 would have their taxes raised. Period. bingo."


but for the creepy joe br0 cult nothing is ever his fault, sad!
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Biden2020: The Lessee of two Equals
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