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Originally Posted by PunkRockHec
beat me to it...that economy is so great, folds like a cheap suit at the first sign of depression but hey that Stock Market tho.
So it was only Trump who didn't see the pandemic affecting the country like it did? I doubt you could find many moderates that thought the economy wasn't anything but great at the time, if they did you would have seen sell-offs.
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Originally Posted by 72off
ah, fair enough
+ some kind of gdn climate plan (which actually polls insanely well vs the zero play it gets in the media etc)
throw in legal weed and criminal justice & electoral reform and that's prob a good start
oh, and some klind of ubi
what am i forgetting?
(tax cuts always play well of course, but you can prob skip that in lieu of increased services, could probably do a little reforming there though)
I was prepared to go at you but this is a pretty fair list. I think you're laying it on pretty thick though with respect to most moderates being such idealists, but I'll concede possibly being wrong there. IMO, those in the center care about all those things
unless it interferes with their ability to provide their families with a better life..
My question now is, where on there is being worried about national security? Or better yet, where does distancing themselves from the Iraq debacle lie on their list of important topics? The crime bill is similar--I don't think most moderates blame Biden for his vote
at all. Had the VAWA not been part of it maybe, but that was a monumental step for women in this country.
Do you see how Bernie and his supporters attacking Biden on this fall on deaf ears to people in the middle? When you tell a moderate that Biden voted to kill thousands of people and incarcerate minorities at an alarming rate, their answer is "it's not that simple, I know more about this than you do". How does that compel those in the center?
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Originally Posted by bazooka87
Sorry, you glossed over the part linking the 9/11 attacks to Iraq while talking about the UN weapons inspector being a sexual deviant, can you give me a refresh?
I did, as did most of America at the time. It was there right in front of our faces, but a lot of us chose to ignore it because we were hurting
and a president that the country really trusted said that Saddam was a threat to National Security. It looks really foolish now, but it didn't then to most of America.
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