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05-01-2020 , 05:26 PM
The irony to all of this is that Canada passed a law today banning appx. 1500 types of assault weapons in the country.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...8ae_story.html


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05-01-2020 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by PunkRockHec
The irony to all of this is that Canada passed a law today banning appx. 1500 types of assault weapons in the country.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...8ae_story.html


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Canucks have a 2 year window to export them. Just means more of the cool guns for the USA#1!. Seems like a good opportunity to invade Canada and take their moose and whale meat before eating Amerihumans.
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05-01-2020 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by grando1.0
Second Amendment brah
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Originally Posted by RT
It's the difference between "can" and "should".
relevant at 1:20

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05-01-2020 , 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RT
Yeah, I can handle the guys carrying a pistol or something in a holster even though I think it's dumb, but if I see someone open carrying a long gun in public, that's immediately a more tense situation.

I've been around guns my entire life and there's no reason to carry them in public, let alone open carry them. It just adds more volitility to already unstable situations.
It's fine for cops to open catry because they are all mentally stable and good guys. Great for cops to carry guns.
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05-01-2020 , 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by cannabusto
C'mon man, lol. I wouldn't expect a Canadian to get it. Jk.

As I said, I'm all for gun control. The USA NEEDS gun control.

At the same time, I don't have an adrenaline rush of fear if I go out and see some dork with an AK on his shoulder. The guy isn't going to shoot me. It's that simple. None of those officials were in true fear. I'd bet lots on that. And please don't dredge up politically motivated quotes that may or may not have been made. Politically motivated quotes that I ultimately support, mind you.
Let me guess. This hypothetical guy is white.
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05-02-2020 , 06:34 PM
Guns aren't the problem, it's that everyone who open carries is ******ed.

If every scientist had a gun we'd be ok.
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05-02-2020 , 07:42 PM
Kind of a cool story that got missed this week, Biden allowed Bernie to keep around 350 delegates he was set to forfeit after dropping out of the race. It's a procedural thing that happens to every candidate that drops out, but Biden reached a deal with Bernie to allow him to keep all his delegates.

That means more progressives will have seats on committees that draft rules and the platform at the Convention and more of Bernie's supporters will be on the floor (if it happens as planned in Milwaukee).

It's an obvious political olive branch, but on a functional level, it will help move policy to the left and get more of Bernie's stuff on the stage.
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05-02-2020 , 09:47 PM
bernie seems smart enough to realize that biden's desire to get along with everyone isn't exclusive to republicans and can be used to get him to get behind leftist tings
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05-03-2020 , 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by REDeYeS88
relevant at 1:20

I was never a DC fan before he disappeared, but since he's come back I just can't get enough of his art.
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05-03-2020 , 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by El Rata
bernie seems smart enough to realize that biden's desire to get along with everyone isn't exclusive to republicans and can be used to get him to get behind leftist tings
It's almost as if gaining influence in politics isn't done by throwing an egotistical hissy fit and refusing to take part in anything when your first choice didn't win the primary. Who knew!
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05-03-2020 , 05:29 AM
Let's hear from cannabusto how this guy posed more of a threat than people marching into state buildings with assault rifles.

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05-03-2020 , 07:27 AM
Sorry for saying the situation wasn't that scary. Not sure how that's at all connected with a cop tasering people, but enjoy whatever is going on in your head.

D-Beat, I have a master's degree in social inequality and have studied race and racism on a deeper level than probably anyone itt. I have always fought for anti-racist policies while spreading awareness of implicit bias and structural racism. **** off.
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05-03-2020 , 11:04 AM
If it’s not intimidating why do you think they show up with guns in the first place? Why the militia aesthetic? Anyone of those guys could be a complete nut that you have no idea what they’re capable of. Not to mention that a healthy majority of mass shooters fall squarely in that demographic. You don’t think that clown who drove his car into a sea of protestors in Charlottesville would find himself in this crowd at some point?

This idea that you’d feel totally fine with them being there because every single one of them is just some nerd trying to make a second amendment point is an asinine probabilistic assumption you are making at a distance after the fact. They are there because they ostensibly think they are being oppressed and are probably incoherently barking about the tree of liberty and other insanities.

If you were there you would **** yourself and rightfully so because theres a realistic chance that amongst this crowd of emotional imbeciles and all their rhetoric not every single is aware of and acting rationally according to some broader political calculus.

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05-03-2020 , 12:29 PM
Anyone who thinks the guns don't send a very powerful message is being willfully ignorant. Just scroll up three posts to the guy getting slammed. That doesn't happen if you're carrying an assault rifle. No one's going to pepper spray you to get you to disperse.

The presence of a gun means the gun could be used. That is always going to massively change the equation.

This is why the Black Panthers caused a Republican governor (Reagan) to very quickly change the open carry laws in California.



https://capitolweekly.net/black-panthers-armed-capitol/

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It’s largely forgotten now, but 50 years ago, it created a national sensation. It even caused the National Rifle Association and Ronald Reagan to back a gun-control bill authored by a Republican.

Tuesday is the 50th anniversary of the May 2, 1967 “invasion” of the state Capitol by two dozen gun-toting Black Panthers. Carrying rifles, pistols and shotguns, and wearing dark glasses, leather jackets and berets, they marched up the front steps and into the Capitol to demonstrate their opposition to an anti-gun bill by Oakland Republican Don Mulford (1915-2000).
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The visitors walked into the building, and headed for the Assembly chamber on the second floor, where they intended to read aloud “Executive Mandate Number 1,” a statement in opposition to the Mulford Bill. They were not allowed to enter the chamber, so they went outside and read the statement on the front lawn.

The Black Panthers’s action resulted in swift approval of Mulford’s bill. Mulford even added a clause barring anyone but law enforcement from bringing a loaded firearm into the Capitol.

Reagan quickly signed the bill. He was quoted as saying “There’s no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act

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The Mulford Act was a 1967 California bill that repealed a law allowing public carrying of loaded firearms. Named after Republican assemblyman Don Mulford, and signed into law by then governor of California, Ronald Reagan, the bill was crafted in response to members of the Black Panther Party who were lawfully conducting armed patrols of Oakland neighborhoods, in what would later be termed copwatching.[1] They garnered national attention after Black Panthers members, bearing arms, marched upon the California State Capitol to protest the bill.[2][3][4]
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05-03-2020 , 01:47 PM
It’s a little weird they tell us Don Mulford’s lifespan.
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05-03-2020 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Andro
It's almost as if gaining influence in politics isn't done by throwing an egotistical hissy fit and refusing to take part in anything when your first choice didn't win the primary. Who knew!
Lol at believing that is worth a ****.
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05-03-2020 , 02:16 PM
I wonder what #Pragmatists think is the actual number of woke Bernie supporters who would ensure Biden’s victory if not for throwing an egotistical hissy fit? I bet it’s a number 100% based on real life

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05-03-2020 , 03:19 PM
I Don’t Know How To Explain To You That You Should Care About Other People

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Like many Americans, I’m having politics fatigue. Or, to be more specific, arguing-about-politics fatigue.

I haven’t run out of salient points or evidence for my political perspective, but there is a particular stumbling block I keep running into when trying to reach across the proverbial aisle and have those “difficult conversations” so smugly suggested by think piece after think piece:

I don’t know how to explain to someone why they should care about other people.

Personally, I’m happy to pay an extra 4.3 percent for my fast food burger if it means the person making it for me can afford to feed their own family. If you aren’t willing to fork over an extra 17 cents for a Big Mac, you’re a fundamentally different person than I am.

I’m perfectly content to pay taxes that go toward public schools, even though I’m childless and intend to stay that way, because all children deserve a quality, free education. If this seems unfair or unreasonable to you, we are never going to see eye to eye.

If I have to pay a little more with each paycheck to ensure my fellow Americans can access health care? SIGN ME UP. Poverty should not be a death sentence in the richest country in the world. If you’re okay with thousands of people dying of treatable diseases just so the wealthiest among us can hoard still more wealth, there is a divide between our worldviews that can never be bridged.
Nailed it.
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05-03-2020 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
Lol at believing that is worth a ****.
Nothing is worth a ****. #Nihilism4Lyfe
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05-03-2020 , 05:41 PM
A lot of it comes to down to genes and differences in the brain. Larger amygdala, more fear, and the ball is rolling from there.

It's somewhat easier if you can build a relationship first and then try to catch them with honey before attempting to convince them to change a belief.
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05-04-2020 , 06:08 AM
Relevant and spot on tweet.

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05-04-2020 , 02:14 PM
lol


hmm yeah, some donk who spent all weekend talking about how great dubya is prob the authority on who & what the left is and should be
(what he's saying is also a ridiculous strawman, but as if any of you rubes care about that)

no power or influence but everything is their fault, lol





anyway, have fun with your bipartisan daily 911 this summer

poors & poc will obv bear the brunt, but chalk up another thing that libs like mehdi, creepy joe, barry, nancy & chuck don't care about

too busy dancin' in their mansions with ellen, dubya, and mitch...
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05-04-2020 , 02:29 PM
If a person cannot be bothered to show up to vote against Trump, I see no reason to consider that person a left winger. Because if you can't be bothered to show up and vote Trump out of office, the main issue on your mind is clearly not left wing policies.

Mehdi supported Bernie all the way, yet the No Joe Bros are now going hard against him because he refuses to accept their premise that Biden is as bad as Trump.

If you say anything on Twitter about Biden that is not 100 % an insult, you are getting swarmed by the No Joe Bros. It's pathetic. They even do it to Bernie supporters. It's pathetic, destructive and the only ones who gain from that behavior is the GOP.

Have fun with the 4 more years of Trump that you are right now fighting for.
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05-04-2020 , 02:42 PM
wow the left doesn't like creepy joe bipartisenile? i wonder why that could be


think it has anything to do with literally his entire career in politics up to and including his 2020 platform?
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05-04-2020 , 02:51 PM
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David Wallace-Wells @dwallacewells

The CDC projection for 3,000 deaths a day is getting a lot of attention, as it should. But that is a 50th percentile projection. To date, actual deaths have ranged north of the 97th percentile. The 97th percentile projection for June 1 is 15,000 deaths per day.

More recently, they have fallen below the 97th percentile but above the 75th percentile range. The 75th percentile projection is for about 10,000 deaths per day.

oops my bad, 3-5 911s per day
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