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04-12-2020 , 01:25 PM
He’s just trying to out-Dabo Dabo. Nbd.
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04-12-2020 , 01:30 PM
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Completely exonerated except for the other sexual harassment

That’s an amazing sentence. We found no evidence of sexual misconduct expect for the sexual misconduct.
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04-12-2020 , 02:03 PM
LOL at the NYT tweet. Can’t believe that’s real.
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04-12-2020 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...bailout-trump/

Why do Republicans hate the Postal Service so much? Is it too socialist for them or something? I’m legitimately baffled.
Republicans want the USPS gone so we can finally eliminate mail-in voting. It's just another disenfranchisement technique.

The USPS has been getting it handed to them for years. Not long ago they were forced to set aside a huge amount of money (over $70B if I recall correctly) to pay for retirement funds basically in perpetuity. No other business/department in the country has a requirement like that. You can be pretty sure that money will get magically "re-appropriated" by a Republican congress at some point since it's much easier just to shift around cash already set aside than it is to create new piles.
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04-12-2020 , 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mullen
LOL at the NYT tweet. Can’t believe that’s real.
That last sentence is so cruel.
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04-12-2020 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by RT
Republicans want the USPS gone so we can finally eliminate mail-in voting. It's just another disenfranchisement technique.

The USPS has been getting it handed to them for years. Not long ago they were forced to set aside a huge amount of money (over $70B if I recall correctly) to pay for retirement funds basically in perpetuity. No other business/department in the country has a requirement like that. You can be pretty sure that money will get magically "re-appropriated" by a Republican congress at some point since it's much easier just to shift around cash already set aside than it is to create new piles.
The GOP has been targeting the Ed. Dept. and USPS since Reagan. They've just been quieter about it. I wanna say it was a Milton Friedman thing? Can't remember who started the craze.
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04-12-2020 , 04:55 PM
I’ll just never understand the logic of the Never Joe Bernie Bro

Like, in 4 years after Trump puts 2 more sycophants on the Supreme Court, after more hard right judges are shoved in by Mitch and the gang, after election rules are further obliterated to consolidate power to the right, after the ACA is obliterated, after further regulations are gutted and after more and more social programs are ripped out you think what, now people will be willing to embrace the candidate my crew believes in so much even we don’t bother to take the time out to vote for him?

I think you underestimate what 4 more years of trump will do. There will never be a fair election in our lifetime, nobody will have subsidized health care, but hey, at least you got to slit your throat to spite your face
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04-12-2020 , 05:11 PM
Someone tossed around the word ****** earlier
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04-12-2020 , 06:07 PM
NYT edited the article. Probably will have a Streisand effect and cause even more people to see it now.

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04-12-2020 , 06:41 PM
How does someone with (presumed) ****ing training in journalism write that? And how is it put through at least one editor?

I think I answered my own question...
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04-12-2020 , 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Andro
We need a term specifically for Bernie supporters who refuse to vote Biden. Because it's unfair to lump all Bernie supporters in the same group. Most people who supported Bernie are smart enough to realise that voting for Biden is now important. It's just a loud minority of Bernie supporters who are trying to recreate the Nader fiasco from 2000.
It's also a loud minority of Bernie/Bernie Bro critics who spend more time talking about Bernie and his Bros than they do the actual candidate they support.

The reaction I get (denial, anger, fake news!) when pointing out to certain people that more Bernie supporters voted for Hillary in 2016 than Hillary supporters for Obama in 2008 is mildly depressing.
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04-12-2020 , 09:38 PM
As if we needed a real world example of why being realistic matters: VA makes election day a holiday and expands early voting

That was done because a formerly red state elected all sorts of Democrats, from moderates in the burbs to Lee Carter, a devoted democratic socialist. In 2019 Dems retook the state houses and have since gone HAM passing bills like the above, decriminalizing cannibus, ending racist holidays, passed additional gun control laws and abortion protections, and passed a cap on insulin prices.

Couldn't get everything done so far, but that's a lot of **** for what used to be a pretty purple state.
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04-13-2020 , 02:42 PM
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04-13-2020 , 02:48 PM
huh, turns out bernie thinks trump is the most "dangerous president in the modern history of the country"

but victor thinks he's = obama
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04-13-2020 , 03:46 PM
ya its almost like this whole Bernie supporters follow a cult of personality was completely false and either box of rocks dumb or in total bad faith.
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04-13-2020 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by El Rata
some real toxic Biden Bros in those responses. I am sure your team will be along to tone police any time now.
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04-13-2020 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
ya its almost like this whole Bernie supporters follow a cult of personality was completely false and either box of rocks dumb or in total bad faith.
a 10 year old would know that Bernie is closer to Biden than Trump on the issues. they also wouldn't throw a tantrum like you
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04-13-2020 , 04:29 PM
Bernie, AOC and Chomsky all supporting Biden and pointing out how important it is to defeat Trump. They must be neoliberal shills!
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04-13-2020 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Andro
Bernie, AOC and Chomsky all supporting Biden and pointing out how important it is to defeat Trump. They must be neoliberal shills!
"Suppose Biden is elected. I would anticipate it would be essentially a continuation of Obama — nothing very great, but at least not totally destructive, and opportunities for an organized public to change what is being done, to impose pressures.[...]

"With a Biden presidency, there would be, if not a strongly sympathetic administration, at least one that can be reached, can be pressured. And that’s very important. If you look over the very good labor historian — I’m sure you know Erik Loomis, who has studied the efforts by working people to institute changes in the society, sometimes for themselves, sometimes for the society generally. And he’s pointed out — made an interesting point. These efforts succeeded when there was a tolerant or sympathetic administration, not when there wasn’t. That’s a big — one of many enormous differences between Trump, the sociopath, and Biden, who’s kind of a pretty empty — you can push him one way or another. This is the most crucial election in human history, literally. Another four years of Trump, and we’re in deep trouble." -- Noam Chomsky, Establishment Dem
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04-13-2020 , 08:28 PM
Probably the most interesting piece to come out of Bernie's announcement (per CNN):

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"The two said they had agreed to form six task forces to work on policy matters. Those policy working groups will cover the economy, education, criminal justice, immigration, climate change and health care."
Every reason to be skeptical here but the reality is Biden knows he needs something nearing 70% or so of Bernie's voters to vote for him, so there has to be a consistent Bernie influence throughout.
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04-13-2020 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Andro
Bernie, AOC and Chomsky all supporting Biden and pointing out how important it is to defeat Trump. They must be neoliberal shills!
Politics shouldn't be a fandom and Bye Don>>>Biden
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04-13-2020 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Andro
Bernie, AOC and Chomsky all supporting Biden and pointing out how important it is to defeat Trump. They must be neoliberal shills!

Wow, interesting and very original talking point!

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04-13-2020 , 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by RT
Probably the most interesting piece to come out of Bernie's announcement (per CNN):



Every reason to be skeptical here but the reality is Biden knows he needs something nearing 70% or so of Bernie's voters to vote for him, so there has to be a consistent Bernie influence throughout.
I'm skeptical but this is a start.

His other start was proposing lowering Medicare age by 5 years, which wasn't exactly encouraging.
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04-13-2020 , 09:47 PM
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I'm skeptical but this is a start.

His other start was proposing lowering Medicare age by 5 years, which wasn't exactly encouraging.
Especially when Hillary's plan was to lower it by 10 years in 2016.
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04-13-2020 , 10:07 PM
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Especially when Hillary's plan was to lower it by 10 years in 2016.

By 2024, the Democrats will be settling for raising the age to 70 and nominating Joe Lieberman to lose to Don Jr
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