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04-11-2020 , 09:15 PM
Proly when he did more campaign events than Hillary. Proly when he dropped out way before Hillary did vs Obama. Proly when he refused to attack Biden to maintain party unity.
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04-11-2020 , 09:31 PM
Gotta vote Biden. I hate it but you just have to. Democracy is over if Trump wins.
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04-11-2020 , 09:58 PM
I assume the Bernie Bros not voting Biden are just not in swing states

If not they'd be really really really stupid
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04-11-2020 , 10:16 PM
Victor spent months touting a sellout, lol.
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04-11-2020 , 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by grando1.0
I assume the Bernie Bros not voting Biden are just not in swing states

If not they'd be really really really stupid
Stupid is just what America does. Even our quasi-smart people are stupid.
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04-11-2020 , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Hellmuth was right
also very similar to "Im willing to pay more for my healthcare, as long as the poor people don't get access to it."

oh wait, those are Biden voters
I was being serious, clearly you are not. Wouldn't it be "The poors will pay less for healthcare" for Biden voters?

Are you suggesting that he's going to make it worse than Trump would?
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04-11-2020 , 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
some people just want to make **** up and strawman other posts rather than have any sort of integrity. we have been over this many times and I have written the above many times. yet you continue to lie.

its #blueMAGA. thats all it is. continue to lie and deride and cater to Republicans. maybe it will work and you will be successful in winning elections with a party with no material differences other than the tone.
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Are you in Ohio?
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Originally Posted by Victor
Yes. And here's the thing. Let's see how committed you resistance Dems are. If you donate 100 to my super special centrist do nothing non revolution then I will go Biden.
1.) Not voting Biden is catering to Republicans. Ask every Trumpanzee on this board.

2.) I've never voted Dem in a presidential election in my life, dating back to 2000. I don't know who you think you're talking to, but you're not talking to that person right now.

3.) The only presidential candidate to whom I've ever donated is Bernie Sanders, who I've been supporting since before you learned to spell socialist.

You act like an expert, but your trytoohard makes you reek of being really green.
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04-11-2020 , 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by D-Beat
Victor spent months touting a sellout, lol.
joe's compassion embracing the bros despite having nothing in common with them politically and still being friends with bernie despite him attempting to hijack the democratic party even though he has more similarities with trump is the kind of leadership we need during these divsive times.

i was on the fence about him being a decent candidate, but now i'm sold

JOE
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04-11-2020 , 10:36 PM
in all seriousness i never really had a horse in the race in the primary. i was gonna hold a fundraiser for bernie, though. figure he needed the $ and my roommate is a big fan
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04-11-2020 , 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Seadood228
I was being serious, clearly you are not. Wouldn't it be "The poors will pay less for healthcare" for Biden voters?

Are you suggesting that he's going to make it worse than Trump would?

It’s certainly possible - Trump’s recent comments on some health-care related issues are actually left of Biden. Granted, they are all in response to COVID, but there’s little difference among actual policy between Biden and Trump. Biden is a guy who has literally said that nothing meaningful will chance in the country under his presidency. He’s horrible.

Now, I would never vote Trump over Biden, simply because only appointing milquetoast “centrists” (Republicans) to judicial positions over Nazis has value. But it’s difficult for me to be upset at someone who decides to tell the Democratic Party to go **** themselves because they don’t deserve support.
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04-11-2020 , 11:58 PM
All the "country over party" dipshits when it comes to Trump suddenly care a ton about the letter next to Sanders's name when it comes to the Democratic side

Interesting!
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04-12-2020 , 05:09 AM
Trump is currently in court suing to remove the healthcare from 20 million Americans. He has presented no plan for how he wants those people to have healthcare if he succeeds in removing it. It is delusional to pretend he won't make healthcare much worse than Biden will.

Sometimes your first choice is not available. It happens in life. Biden was not a perfect candidate. But there are still serious things at stake in this election. For instance, Biden will probably make healthcare slightly better while Trump will make it a lot worse. Trump will appoint young SC judges who will block healthcare for the next generation. Biden will not.

It's extremely selfish to not vote Biden because you are salty about how people voted in the primary. It's extremely selfish that people like Victor don't care if Trump succeeds in removing healthcare from 20 million Americans, just because Victor's ego was hurt too much by people voting for Biden in the primary.
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04-12-2020 , 05:14 AM
We need a term specifically for Bernie supporters who refuse to vote Biden. Because it's unfair to lump all Bernie supporters in the same group. Most people who supported Bernie are smart enough to realise that voting for Biden is now important. It's just a loud minority of Bernie supporters who are trying to recreate the Nader fiasco from 2000.
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04-12-2020 , 06:29 AM
I feel you could bring the word ****** back for them
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04-12-2020 , 06:33 AM
Seriously though call them the Joe blows
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04-12-2020 , 06:42 AM
The Joe Nos
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04-12-2020 , 06:48 AM
The no Joe bros there we go I did it
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04-12-2020 , 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Seadood228
I was being serious, clearly you are not. Wouldn't it be "The poors will pay less for healthcare" for Biden voters?

Are you suggesting that he's going to make it worse than Trump would?
No i was being serious. Deplorables like thinman voted biden over bernie because they didn't want the poors to get "free stuff"
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04-12-2020 , 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by grando1.0
The no Joe bros there we go I did it
Catchy! The No Joe Bros.

I feel like they need a motto too:

No Joe Bros - we want Trump to be President so no one can have healthcare!
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04-12-2020 , 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Andro
Trump is currently in court suing to remove the healthcare from 20 million Americans. He has presented no plan for how he wants those people to have healthcare if he succeeds in removing it. It is delusional to pretend he won't make healthcare much worse than Biden will.
That’s one way of looking at it. Another is that the current healthcare system is complete trash and for many, maintaining the status quo is not much preferable to it being taken away.

Trump has actually made comments (re: COVID and health care) that it’s unfair for you to lose your insurance if you lose your job and can’t afford it. Perhaps he’ll be forced into making some changes to the system. Meanwhile, Biden, who was given a total layup and generational opportunity to make a difference, has been mostly invisible and made a comment about lowering the Medicare age to 60. He. Sucks.

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Sometimes your first choice is not available. It happens in life. Biden was not a perfect candidate. But there are still serious things at stake in this election. For instance, Biden will probably make healthcare slightly better while Trump will make it a lot worse. Trump will appoint young SC judges who will block healthcare for the next generation. Biden will not.
Saying Biden isn’t a perfect candidate is like saying Jerry Sandusky wasn’t a perfect guy. Biden is the worst candidate in the history of the Democratic Party and arguably in all of political history. He is a center-right Republican by American standards and a far right Republican by any other developed first world nation’s standards. Like Trump - he is a pathological liar, huckster, and career piece of **** who has lined his own (and his family’s) pockets at the expense of others. He is also senile and has mentally deteriorated far more than Trump has. The MSM has totally ignored Tara Reade. Make no mistake about it, Biden is extremely bad, not “not perfect”.

As I touched on earlier, the fact that he will only appoint normal Republicans to judicial positions over 35 year old white supremacists has value, so sadly, Joe would have my vote if it mattered (it doesn’t). But I can definitely identify with someone who decided not to do that

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It's extremely selfish to not vote Biden because you are salty about how people voted in the primary. It's extremely selfish that people like Victor don't care if Trump succeeds in removing healthcare from 20 million Americans, just because Victor's ego was hurt too much by people voting for Biden in the primary.
I don’t think people aren’t voting Biden because they are salty Bernie lost. They won’t vote for him because he’s a historically terrible candidate who isn’t exciting to vote for and the Democratic Party needs to learn that they can’t just shove in a Republican and get the W.
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04-12-2020 , 09:24 AM
The "not perfect" thing is kind of pretty offensive

He'd be more villainized if he killed dogs.
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04-12-2020 , 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by vinivici9586
joe's compassion embracing the bros despite having nothing in common with them politically and still being friends with bernie despite him attempting to hijack the democratic party even though he has more similarities with trump is the kind of leadership we need during these divsive times.

i was on the fence about him being a decent candidate, but now i'm sold

JOE
first, I didnt know that it was a "hijack" to attempt to end the corporate cartel socialism so that the common citizen can keep more of his hard earned money and get more back in terms of services that benefit him like health care, housing, education.

and second, no one is dumb enough to think that Bernie and Trump have anything in common.
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04-12-2020 , 11:04 AM
Tara Reade made the NYT finally. they hid it on an early Easter Sunday. and the article was just laden with lies, half-lies, omissions, and bias.

the hypocrisy of Dems using the exact same arguments, word for word in many cases, that the Repubs used in the Dr Ford vs Kavanaugh debacle is just amazing. beyond parody. exposes the Dems and #meToo as complete frauds.
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04-12-2020 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
Tara Reade made the NYT finally. they hid it on an early Easter Sunday. and the article was just laden with lies, half-lies, omissions, and bias.

the hypocrisy of Dems using the exact same arguments, word for word in many cases, that the Repubs used in the Dr Ford vs Kavanaugh debacle is just amazing. beyond parody. exposes the Dems and #meToo as complete frauds.



Completely exonerated except for the other sexual harassment
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04-12-2020 , 01:01 PM
https://twitter.com/alex_kirshner/st...48311417503744

Harbaugh has quite the take today.
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