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04-10-2020 , 10:41 PM

#52476

REDeYeS00

always sloppy

Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 23,925

more like enacting single-prayer health care.

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04-10-2020 , 11:02 PM

#52477

Carpal \'Tunnel

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Originally Posted by REDeYeS88

more like enacting single-prayer health care.

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04-11-2020 , 12:29 AM

#52478

REDeYeS00

always sloppy

Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 23,925

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Originally Posted by Seadood228

DT's ad is ****ing terrible. The whole premise of it are things Biden did or didn't do, and all of them can be turned right back to Trump who was more egregious at literally everything he's accusing Biden of. Right now Biden's ad >>>>

biden can’t even sexually assault as much as trump does.

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04-11-2020 , 02:08 AM

#52479

ut2010

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Look to the left and right and just see bought politicians from the rich. Will probably show up and vote for Biden but meh.
Might be time for guillotine time again for the rich who step out of line.

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04-11-2020 , 03:43 AM

#52480

grando1.0

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Originally Posted by REDeYeS88

more like enacting single-prayer health care.

Yeah this is very well done

How USA#LOL can't even parlay this situation into a significantly better, comparative-to-non-shitty-countries health care situation is completely ridiculous and embarrassing.

This is a Golden State 2020 level collapse from your shitty country.

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04-11-2020 , 03:59 AM

#52481

suzzer99

Save the Cheerleader, Save the World

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 100,195

Read RSigley's account in the OOT Covid thread - he got hit with balance billing from the hospital while he was at death's door. There literally should never be "Your insurance only payed X so you owe us Y." People are paying huge premiums, huge deductibles, and then their insurance only covers part of their expenses. It's insane.

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Originally Posted by DefNotRsigley

I'm mid 30's, but I had cancer in my late 20's so my immunity system is pretty F'd from the chemo and the damage the cancer did to me. Health wise I'm fine though. Yoga/cardio everyday, weights 3x/week. Eat "clean", no sugar and rarely fried foods.

I wasn't considered in serious enough condition at first to be on a ventilator (even when I told them about the cancer) or to even get a hospital bed by the people who saw me, but then when it got really bad I had no power to go outside and get to the hospital. I'm single w/no family and didn't want to bother any friends to be like hey can you drive me to the hospital I'm dying and will probably infect you. I was thinking about taking an uber because the uber drivers here are horrible and never know where they're going or try to scam you somehow, but I didn't think that would be fair to the person who got stuck with me.

One funny thing was around the peak of the pain / struggling to breath I was lying in bed thinking well I had a good life, no regrats. Then my phone starts vibrating a bunch and I'm like guess I'll check that maybe some interaction will get my mind off dying. Grab my phone and it's a text message from MountainView hospital - your insurance didn't cover $72, click here to pay your bill by April 20th. Then every couple minutes a new text came in, your insurance didn't cover X, click here to pay your bill.

I feel like the absurdity of the situation brought some levity and gave me the power to live.

I'm fortunate enough to be financial fine and this won't ruin my life. Couldn't imagine if I was paycheck to paycheck since I've been basically useless for 3 weeks and probably will take a couple weeks to fully recover.

But if you have a chance Joshua Tree is amazing. You can get a cheap air bnb in Feb/March, so I just usually go there and re-charge after 10 months of sports betting every day.

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04-11-2020 , 04:33 AM

#52482

suzzer99

Save the Cheerleader, Save the World

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 100,195

Relevant.

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04-11-2020 , 04:34 AM

#52483

DodgerIrish

Fraudulent Zodiac

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 28,240

The White House says a lot of things.

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04-11-2020 , 07:47 AM

#52484

Victor

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Originally Posted by Melkerson

Do you mean you're just leaving president blank? Or are you not voting at all?

leaving blank or writing in something stupid

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04-11-2020 , 07:50 AM

#52485

Victor

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Originally Posted by RT

Trump's ad is predictable ****, if it was Bernie it would just be a strobe light flashing the word "SOCIALISM". It's red meat for his base, and for the kind of people that like the sort of thing, that's the sort of thing they like. The problem is, he doesn't have Hillary Hate and misogyny to get people out any more.

but Biden wont have hold your nose Progressives this time. Remember that Bernie supporters went Hillary in unprecedented numbers. not happening this time.

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04-11-2020 , 08:30 AM

#52486

Victor

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

its way past time to remove the word "should" from anything referring to our society.

the point is to strip as much wealth as possible from people. thats the world we live in and it doesnt matter if it "should" be or if its fair or any of that.

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04-11-2020 , 08:36 AM

#52487

gregorio

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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish

The White House says a lot of things.

None of it binding unless accompanied by a tweet

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04-11-2020 , 11:47 AM

#52488

Andro

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Originally Posted by Victor

the media and the DNC destroyed the movement with now debunked lies about "toxic" supporters

Debunked? In what fantasy World? Bernie definitely has a toxic fanbase. Since Bernie dropped out a few days ago, Twitter has been absolutely overrun by toxic Bernie supporters. If you as much as suggest that you will vote for Biden, prepare for a brigade of Bernie supporters to overrun you.

I love Bernie, but it's delusional to suggest his fanbase is not toxic.

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04-11-2020 , 11:48 AM

#52489

Booker Wolfbox

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Damned Russian bots

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04-11-2020 , 11:52 AM

#52490

Andro

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The year is 2035. AOC has risen to senate majority leader. She manages to pass universal healthcare and tuition free college. However, the supreme court strikes it down and labels it unconstitutional, spearheaded by the Trump appointees who got appointed because a group of lazy Bernie supporters could not be bothered to show up and vote in 2020.

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04-11-2020 , 12:28 PM

#52491

Hellmuth was right

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 5,820

for some reason i don't think the guy talking about how we are "overrun with toxic Bernie supporters" is posting in good faith about universal healthcare and tuition free college.

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04-11-2020 , 12:46 PM

#52492

Andro

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Originally Posted by Hellmuth was right

for some reason i don't think the guy talking about how we are "overrun with toxic Bernie supporters" is posting in good faith about universal healthcare and tuition free college.

Thank you for instantly proving my point

I supported Bernie. I wanted him to be President. But too many of his supporters have a mindset like yours.

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04-11-2020 , 01:11 PM

#52493

Fedfan691

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,382

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Originally Posted by Andro

Thank you for instantly proving my point

I supported Bernie. I wanted him to be President. But too many of his supporters have a mindset like yours.

Wait, that's the kind of response from bernie supporters you're labeling as "toxic?"

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04-11-2020 , 01:25 PM

#52494

Andro

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Originally Posted by Fedfan691

Wait, that's the kind of response from bernie supporters you're labeling as "toxic?"

Nah, rather the notion that it must be in "bad faith" if you say that you are a Bernie supporter who wants Biden to win against Trump. It's not far from calling people DeEp StAtE oPeRaTiVeS.

Given how passionate most of Bernie's supporters seem to be, a lot seem to not really care whether it will be possible to implement M4A in the next 20-30 years. Because it won't be if Trump gets to pick more young deplorable SC judges.

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04-11-2020 , 02:18 PM

#52495

Victor

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Originally Posted by Andro

it was debunked by some study that showed they were no more toxic than the #resistance *******s that spent 4 years attacking them.

I mean, ffs theres an entire brigade of "donut" twitter. the reason they put a donut in their twitter is bc in 2016 when they locked Nina Turner out of the NV convention and she and her group waited all day to get in, they sent them donuts. is that toxic?

its complete garbage. Bernie supporters are by far the most compassionate and loving of any other group on there. hell, look at Brianha Gray Joy's timeline and tell me the whole #blueNoMatterWhoooo group is even close to as bad as Bernie's.

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04-11-2020 , 02:19 PM

#52496

Victor

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Originally Posted by Andro

I am old enough to remember when your side was claiming anyone supporting Bernie was a Russian bot.

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04-11-2020 , 02:20 PM

#52497

Seadood228

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I'm a newb, but I don't get the logic behind not voting Biden from Bernie supporters.

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04-11-2020 , 02:24 PM

#52498

Andro

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Originally Posted by Seadood228

I'm a newb, but I don't get the logic behind not voting Biden from Bernie supporters.

The logic seems to be "my guy didn't win, so now I want poor people's healthcare dismantled even more by Trump."

Or alternatively, "I couldn't have a perfect filet mignon for dinner, so now I choose a rotten pile of feces instead of a lasagna."

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04-11-2020 , 02:28 PM

#52499

Andro

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It's pretty simple:

If your main priority is poor people having healthcare, you show up and vote for Biden.

If your main priority is your own ego, you stay at home on election day.

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04-11-2020 , 02:47 PM

#52500

vinivici9586

Breakfast?

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 11,669

how much could bernie have delivered on his campaign promises? asking from someone more informed than me who isn't a bro*

*bro = bernie voters that are not voting for biden in general

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