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03-03-2016 , 05:16 PM
Goldman Sachs cutting over 5% of fixed income jobs. Can't afford to pay both the bond traders and Hillary so they're making their play early.
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03-03-2016 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
Goldman Sachs cutting over 5% of fixed income jobs. Can't afford to pay both the bond traders and Hillary so they're making their play early.
Fixed income pretty dead obv but I'm pretty sure GS lays off bottom 5% earners after bonuses every year
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03-03-2016 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Bill was a pretty good president except for the crony capitalism and setting the housing crisis in motion with deregulation. He didn't start any stupid $2T wars. I'd settle for that a second time around, especially faced with the prospect of a stupid $2T wall with Trump's name on it.

Imagine the lulz though. Awesome.
I mean, this dude ran on and very early on passed massive welfare reform that made life a harder for poor, single mothers.

There's this gem:

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And of course, that housing crisis disproportionately affected the already-disadvantaged.

Reality is, Clinton was incredibly fortunate to ride an 8 year crest in the economy that kept middle class families afloat even though most of the gains were reaped by a small few, and really ****ed over a lot of people. At the very least, he got us involved in relatively little military activity, and Hillary is probably more likely to increase that than Trump is.

I mean, **** trump and what not, but **** Clinton and **** this Clinton too.
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03-03-2016 , 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by diskoteque
Fixed income pretty dead obv but I'm pretty sure GS lays off bottom 5% earners after bonuses every year
Doubt it since they've been in business for more than 20 years
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03-03-2016 , 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Bill was a pretty good president except for the crony capitalism and setting the housing crisis in motion with deregulation. He didn't start any stupid $2T wars. I'd settle for that a second time around, especially faced with the prospect of a stupid $2T wall with Trump's name on it.

Imagine the lulz though. Awesome.
Yeah I mean I guess it depends how you prioritize, whether you think spending money is worse than failure to act in Rwanda and Kosovo. It is true that he didnt go to WAR FOR OIL though.

And "except for setting the housing crisis in motion" is maybe a little bit more than can be tossed in casually? That wasnt, uh, cheap right?
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03-03-2016 , 05:32 PM
lol rmoney

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03-03-2016 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by kkcountry
Doubt it since they've been in business for more than 20 years
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03-03-2016 , 05:34 PM
I wish I could know what goes through Doyle's mind when he's at the same table with someone like Vanessa Selbst
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03-03-2016 , 05:39 PM
Hillary is way more closely aligned with the military industrial complex and way more likely to be involved in long costly drawn out conflicts that make insiders super rich while charging and killing the poors and civilization for it.

Trump has spoken out against the waste in the military constantly, I'd say WW3 equity and "loose cannon" would be proper criticisms for Trump with re: to the military, but not cost and prolonged warfare. He's openly spoken out against the Iraq war, has talked about how much a waste of money all of that stuff is, etc. and he's the only candidate doing so.

He's even called out the "Bush Reign" and the CIA for knowing about 9/11, his assassination equity is legit.
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03-03-2016 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TheQuietAnarchist
I mean, this dude ran on and very early on passed massive welfare reform that made life a harder for poor, single mothers.

There's this gem:



And of course, that housing crisis disproportionately affected the already-disadvantaged.

Reality is, Clinton was incredibly fortunate to ride an 8 year crest in the economy that kept middle class families afloat even though most of the gains were reaped by a small few, and really ****ed over a lot of people. At the very least, he got us involved in relatively little military activity, and Hillary is probably more likely to increase that than Trump is.

I mean, **** trump and what not, but **** Clinton and **** this Clinton too.

Just LOL the Clintons

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03-03-2016 , 05:43 PM
WW3 is the end of days, so that's sort of a big thing to be worried about increasing odds of
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03-03-2016 , 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BAIDS
drumpf lost a lot of equity today according to der markt. mitt dont play
was like watching a stock collapse

quite a lot of money dumped against him in about a 30 minute timespan during and after mitt speech
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03-03-2016 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by PocketChads
I wish I could know what goes through Doyle's mind when he's at the same table with someone like Vanessa Selbst
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03-03-2016 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Kneel B4 Zod
WW3 is the end of days, so that's sort of a big thing to be worried about increasing odds of

For sure, i don't really disagree with MEB's general concerns as much as the typical lolBLUETEAMers concerns
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03-03-2016 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by THAY3R
You're grandpa, is Bart me or Doyle?
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03-03-2016 , 06:25 PM
what were the actual odds change on Trump today?
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03-03-2016 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Kneel B4 Zod
what were the actual odds change on Trump today?
It's a dead cat bounce. Pretty sure domer is talking his book.

Really though, just lol at the Republican establishment openly calling to disenfranchise its own voters - you know, the people you supposedly represent, who have been gaping your terrible, hand-picked candidates because they're terrible, bought and paid for shills for donors and warmongers (but I repeat myself)
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03-03-2016 , 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Shark Sandwich
It's a dead cat bounce. Pretty sure domer is talking his book.

Really though, just lol at the Republican establishment openly calling to disenfranchise its own voters - you know, the people you supposedly represent, who have been gaping your terrible, hand-picked candidates because they're terrible, bought and paid for shills for donors and warmongers (but I repeat myself)
yeah but again depending how you look at the data, either Rubio or Cruz getting the nomination would please more of the R base than Trump. That sounds weird bc neither of them are winning, but that's what the latest polls showed. or as Jerry Garcia said

"We're like licorice. Not everybody likes licorice, but the people who like licorice really like licorice.'"

That's Trump and his base.
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03-03-2016 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Kneel B4 Zod
yeah but again depending how you look at the data, either Rubio or Cruz getting the nomination would please more of the R base than Trump. That sounds weird bc neither of them are winning, but that's what the latest polls showed
Okay but primaries are conducted at the voting booth, not in some poll aggregating nerd's basement. Voters have told the establishment to **** off in no uncertain terms, and this blatant theft of the nomination would literally guarantee a GOP loss. It would be pure spite (and fear of winning)
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03-03-2016 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Kneel B4 Zod
what were the actual odds change on Trump today?
Roughly from -270 to -195 on betfair.

Trump line has settled but I think the market is clueless on how to distribute the chances for the other 33%, everyone's sort of all over the place. All the wildcards besides Trump, Rubio, Cruz and Kasich need to have 14% for there not to be an arb currently.
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03-03-2016 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Kneel B4 Zod
what were the actual odds change on Trump today?
3.5 -> 4.6 for prez

1.25 -> 1.45 for repub nom

betfair
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03-03-2016 , 06:43 PM
oh damn its drifted to 1.52 for nom since i last checked. mittmentum
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03-03-2016 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by PocketChads
You're grandpa, is Bart me or Doyle?
Not sure what you mean but I meant Grandpa is Doyle's mind in your situation. He's a nice guy though, your classic somewhat progressive somewhat racist Texan who gets along with everyone.
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03-03-2016 , 06:48 PM
Damn buying at 8 to 1 and higher and then selling some at 2 to 1, ThayThay crushing
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03-03-2016 , 06:50 PM
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Okay but primaries are conducted at the voting booth, not in some poll aggregating nerd's basement.
but that is different than "Republican establishment openly calling to disenfranchise its own voters". colluding against Trump may actually be appealing to more voters.

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Voters have told the establishment to **** off in no uncertain terms,
I'd say the terms are uncertain. Trump is iffy to get his required amount of delegates. if he doesn't then a brokered convention is fair game.

now, if he gets denied the delegates through out and out collusion - like Cruz and Rubio completely ignoring Ohio, and Kasich and Cruz ignoring Florida - I think you have more grounds for feeling jobbed
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