I wonder if there’s a correlation between when candidates start paying lip service to popular ideas and the likelihood that they are going to do what it takes to implement them while in office.

That's fine, my point is that I want someone who is clearly playing in bad faith with a wink/nod to the base. They can say single payer as a human right in the primaries. In the general, the candidate should counter claims of being a socialist (read: murdering communist dictator) with very bold statements like "I am the most pro-capitalist person to ever run for president" and "You're the socialist."

So the Republican playbook?

That on steroids. All of this policy talk is like George McFly straining to pitch a new book idea while being made into a pretzel by Biff. When you regain leverage on a bully, you go for the knockout punch. Dems are gonna use the opportunity to type up another chapter of the sci-fi novel.

This seems like an issue

Shark Sandwich says "hi".

Hillary was deemed to be by far the most "electable". That was obviously wrong in hindsight - but the DNC didn't engineer her to win the primary because they thought she would lose the general. What she was not - was the most inspirational.

To me the lesson is don't even think about electability. Just support the candidate that lights your fire and let the chips fall where they may. It worked for Trump fans. If Warren doesn't move the needle for you then fine, support someone else.

To me she's the best candidate, so I'm going to push hard for her until she's out of the running. All the other stuff is just noise.

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Great post. Support who gets you excited. Everything will figure itself out.

https://prospect.org/article/insulin-racket

From hobbes:

The next time someone asks "But how are we going to pay for it?" - tell them we already do pay for it - just in the most inefficient, arbitrary, corporate-profit-subsidizing way possible.

I’m with you.

I literally can't read any more stories about insulin price gouging or kids in cages because they make me want to beat my head into a wall.

The US is just such an embarassment on so many levels. The fact that the 2020 election will probably be pretty close makes my head hurt even more.

What's most frustrating is that E. Warren has so many great, well-thought out policy proposals that are being generated by some of the most intelligent people in the country, and she will lose over a stupid nickname.

As the lone conservative in this group, I am 100% behind Liz Warren. I think forgiving the student loan debt is a great step in the right direction to close the wealth gap, and I think that one policy alone is enough to get her to win in a landslide.

On the phony scale nobody will care bout the phony injun thing as much as they did about always having a fake smile painted on and telling black people that she never leaves home without hot sauce in her bag.

Being called Pocahontas isn't even an insult like being called "lyin", "O'dork", or "crooked"

nope. I'm able to report zero change in my Warren Perturbation Level. Remains at zero.

Again, I'm really confused by this thread's love for Warren while quoting Bernie's policy positions.

"I love Medicare for All, that's why I'm for Liz!"

-Liz is for a public option alongside a private one. Bernie is for M4A

"I think forgiving the student loan debt is a great step in the right direction to close the wealth gap"

-Liz is for forgiving up to $50,000 of student loan debt to families making under ~$100k/yr. Bernie is for forgiving it all.

I like them both, and either one is a great option, but it's strange how much their positions seem to get conflated.

I think everyone here realizes how similar they are. But Bernie is old and crazy.

They're similar overall, and like I said, they're both probably the best options of the field, but Bernie has what should be objectively (to liberals) better plans.

M4A is just a better plan than enhanced ACA, even though both would be better than this **** show we have now. Paying off all student debt is better than paying off some, even though both are better than allowing a tidal wave of debt to crush an entire generation.

If you want to make the el*$#@bi!ity argument, then go ahead. Lord knows nothing gives me a bigger boner, but I'm just saying, it's strange that people say "I want someone who's far left on healthcare!!!" or "I want my student loans erased!!" and then opts for Liz over Bernie.

Media has been ripping Bernie for months. Ofc ppl prefer liz now.

BREAKING: President Rouhani polling at 3% in generic Dem. Primary ballot

Kim Jong Un is going to be so mad he didn’t think of that first.

The poll is online, emailed to MoveOn members, and conducted between June 17 and 21.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...-poll-n1021191

Who the hell likes Joe Biden?

Oh yeah, stupid boomers. JUST ****ING DIE

please not this one, not yet

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-kno...dens-candidacy