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11-06-2018 , 09:36 PM
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11-06-2018 , 09:50 PM
Braun beats Donnelly in Indiana. Not shocked but still. Jesus Christ. Donnelly is such a spineless **** is Braun want a monster I'd be happy.

Dumb **** should have voted for Kavenaugh. Dems are just so bad at this.
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11-06-2018 , 09:53 PM
lotta words to say "lol Indiana"
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11-06-2018 , 09:57 PM
but on the plus side, Miami voted to build David Beckham a soccer stadium! #winning
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11-06-2018 , 09:58 PM
Yeah we complain about Democrats and they can definitely do better but the fundamental problem with this country is that its full of dumb racists.
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11-06-2018 , 10:05 PM
Felons gonna get their voting rights back in FL. That's probably good, although in FL that could mean a lot of method out Trumpets
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11-06-2018 , 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 72off
lotta words to say "lol Indiana"
Sure, but he had a softball. The dude is getting confirmed anyway and you have a state more than half full of racist rednecks. Vote for him and save your job.

Can't overstate how bad the Democrats are at politics in general.
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11-06-2018 , 10:21 PM
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Donnelly's appeal to voters in final days was that he supported Trump’s border wall, opposed sanctuary cities, and that he was interested in legislation to end birthright citizenship.
ehn, sounded like he tried pretty hard to be a Republican, but the voters said nah we love Trump/Pence and want a real Republican instead

if refusing to sacrifice all principles and vote for Judge Rape, who got in anyway, was really the dealbreaker, then i reiterate, lol Indiana
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11-06-2018 , 10:23 PM
Yep voting for Kav would have done nothing for him.
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11-06-2018 , 10:33 PM
Dems still seem 50-55% to win the House, but as they started the day at 85% or whatever, it's definitely flashbacks to 2016

not sure why those odds changed so much tho, has anything very unexpected happened yet?
(prob just a product of not picking up some of the tossups to far, yeah?)


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Chad Pergram @ChadPergram

Fox can now project that Democrats will take control of the House of Representatives for the first time in eight years, dealing a major setback to President Trump’s legislative agenda and giving fresh hope to liberals who want to investigate and perhaps even impeach the president
meanwhile FOX maybe playing games with an early call here

Last edited by 72off; 11-06-2018 at 10:38 PM.
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11-06-2018 , 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by tabbaker
Yep voting for Kav would have done nothing for him.
Save for the exit polls CNN posted that said a majority of IN voters said his vote factored into their decision making. But yeah, keep ****ing that chicken.

Lol @72. Acting like you principles on a vote that's fait accompli matter vs. actually being able to keep your job and govern. This isn't ****ing a pig on national TV here
Jesus this thread is dense some times.
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11-06-2018 , 10:41 PM
You really think that one thing would have caused the super reasonable Republicans to vote for a Dem?
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11-06-2018 , 10:43 PM
Beto going to make the bridge troll sweat if nothing else.
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11-06-2018 , 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by tabbaker
You really think that one thing would have caused the super reasonable Republicans to vote for a Dem?
It's impossible to know for sure.

I think 1) it was a free play that both adds something Reds might like about him and takes away something his enemies can use against him and 2) the idea this thread has that everyone in America is a straight ticket voter is dumb.

There was an article a few months ago on CNN talking to rural voters in battleground states. I think it was IN, WV, and TN or something. I recall a farmer in IN saying something like "Well as long as Donnelly keeps supporting Trump, he's got my vote" to rlthe reporter interviewing him. Which struck me as odd because on most of the really big stuff that wasn't already decided (like Gorsuch), Donnelly voted Blue.

All politics is local and "Congress sucks but my guy is OK" that's why their reelection rate is insane. We'll see when Indy and Gary (the bluest parts of IN) report how close it actually was but it's not insane to think Donnelly cost himself a few points by giving a **** when there wasn't a reason to give a ****.
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11-06-2018 , 10:53 PM
CO-6 and FL-26. Nice that's nice.

Huge lol @ that prick in Buffalo who's under indictment not only staying on the ballot but being 50-50 early. Fiancee's family is from Buffalo and I'm just gonna say it: there's nothing special about local wings. Don't @ me
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11-06-2018 , 10:54 PM
so why did his vote on something that was fait accompli matter?

it didn't matter, so why does it matter now?


whatever, lol your stupid deplorable state
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11-06-2018 , 10:57 PM
I voted Beto, but I am not that excited by his ideas. Why doesn't the DNC just push Biden, to make sure ****face, or his appointee, doesn't win presidency?
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11-06-2018 , 11:02 PM
Kobach losing is absolutely fantastic.
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11-06-2018 , 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 72off
so why did his vote on something that was fait accompli matter?

it didn't matter, so why does it matter now?


whatever, lol your stupid deplorable state
You have no idea what youre talking about. It matters because voters think it matters. Of course his vote didnt change anything but when over 50% of people are saying it had an impact on them then it mattered.

If you stopped being a smug ******* for 5 seconds you might actually contribute something occasionally. People do weird **** sometimes. They act in ways you or I might not. Yeah its dumb as hell, but Dems will do better when they understand and try to shape that rather than laugh at it.
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11-06-2018 , 11:08 PM
Dems have flipped Staten Island. Up to 10 seats flipped already.
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11-06-2018 , 11:10 PM
Stop calling this disappointing, start calling it illegitimate, and get out in the streets.

Relying only on voting your way to fair elections is the same as giving up.
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11-06-2018 , 11:14 PM
Wouldn't he also lose a small percent of voters who don't want to vote for a guy who confirmed a rapist to the Supreme Court?
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11-06-2018 , 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by tabbaker
Wouldn't he also lose a small percent of voters who don't want to vote for a guy who confirmed a rapist to the Supreme Court?
I don't believe so. Few reasons. First, and I'm gonna admit to being a hypocrite for telling 72 to think beyond himself and then just using myself as an example, but I'd have voted for him regardless. I went in at 6am today, gave my ballot the D, and walked out. His vote for or against Kavenaugh wouldn't have changed mymind because I viewed it as irrelevant and shrewd politically.

Second, I see it a little like Clinton in 1996. He was dead in the water going into that election and pivoted fairly hard towards some Republican positions (entitlement reform, criminal justice reform, etc.). He wager was the Dems were already energized and they didnt have anywhere else to go, and he was right. They still came out and he pulled off the comeback.

(As an aside, these ended up being very bad for America and Clinton deserves blame historically for them, but that's a different conversation. He was smart enough to promise, not smart enough to get out of having to deliver.)

Dems were coming out this time regardless. We all hate Trump. Like I've been saying for a while, the key is to keep your opponents from rallying. Trump does some of that naturally for the deplorables (and Indiana is already over half deplorable so the deck is stacked), don't help him out.
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11-06-2018 , 11:28 PM
Looks like tonight is gonna end up similar to projections. Dems control House. Republicans control Senate. A bit less than I was hoping for in terms of a wave but I'll wake up tomorrow with a better feeling than when I woke up today.

Disappointed Beto lost though. He was the first candidate I've ever listened to and actually felt inspired by. Making it a close race is nice, but there's no participation trophies when Cruz is getting to shape the way things are run instead.
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11-06-2018 , 11:29 PM
Thank God for the coasts, because with few exceptions, our Midwest ashes aren't giving you any help. 13 flips so far, 4 in PA, 2 in VA, 1 in NY, NJ, CO, FL, KS, MN, and TX

Also, ****ing Texas
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