SE Hoya Containment Thread (aka Politics) - Page 1849 - Sporting Events and Fantasy Sports

It's easy to see, looking at county by county voting, that Northeast Ohio is easily the most liberal metro in Ohio.

In any case, to apply this to other people, the rich suburbs are actually pretty interesting. Cleveland.com did a city by city analysis of the election. It ranges from solid wins for Trump in places like Gates Mills and Hunting Valley to total landslides for Hillary in places like Pepper Pike, Orange, and Bratenahl.

Quote

06-22-2018 , 04:59 PM

#46202

Biesterfield

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 8,042

rich (white) suburbs around where I live are definitely not pro Trump

Quote

06-22-2018 , 05:02 PM

#46203

#Thinman

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 12,358

so it turns out tom arnold is going to save america.

not sure how i didn't see this coming.

Quote

06-22-2018 , 06:30 PM

#46204

72off

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 67,827

ya, ppl still stanning hard in the paint for Drumpf (that aren't souless 1%ers willing to make that trade) are a lost cause

Quote

06-22-2018 , 06:49 PM

#46205

72off

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 67,827

uhhhhh

Quote

06-23-2018 , 09:27 AM

#46206

Victor

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 72,261

Quote:

Originally Posted by cannabusto

pepper pick and orange are fairly rich and largely ethnically jewish. so, not orthodox.

not sure about bratenahl but I thought it was old money and white. like, another level or rich than the suburbs and legit wealthy.

all the cities you mentioned as hillary landslides are cuyahoga county I think. gates and hunting valley are geauga.

only thing I know about them is from riding my bike on all of those roads. nice houses and huge lawns. some farms. but not backwoods rural at all.

Quote

06-23-2018 , 09:30 AM

#46207

Victor

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 72,261

Quote:

Originally Posted by 72off

uhhhhh

so deplorables in p7 loved to make the argument of cmon, not like theres gonna be concentration camps. you silly libs are crazy if you think our country would do that.

and then, as a followup, they loved to say, hey look, I hate oppression more than anyone and will be the first in line to fight against any sort of concentration camp.

Quote

06-23-2018 , 11:34 AM

#46208

Heroball

temp-banned

Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 9,402

Closer to internment than concentration camps.

For as dehumanizing and wrong as this policy is, people are not being sent to these tents to die (yet).

Quote

06-23-2018 , 11:42 AM

#46209

SenorKeeed

mew mew mew

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 37,478

Nazi concentration camps weren't transitioned extermination camps until like 1940. They started in 1933

Quote

06-23-2018 , 11:49 AM

#46210

72off

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 67,827

#trusttheprocess

Quote

06-23-2018 , 12:01 PM

#46211

Heroball

temp-banned

Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 9,402

Quote:

From 1933, the concentration camp system, including its prisoners and its guards, was not subject to review by any judicial or administrative authorities outside of the SS and police apparatus. Based on an extra-legal jurisdiction authorized by Hitler as Führer, the concentration camp literally stood outside the laws of the German state.

Quote:

It was intended to serve as a detention center for persons whom the Nazi leaders deemed to be a subversive danger to the German race. Incarceration in a concentration camp was rarely linked to a specific crime or actual subversive activity; the SS and police ordered incarceration based on their suspicion that an individual person either had committed a crime or engaged in subversive activity or would likely commit a crime or engage in a subversive activity in the future.

Quote:

The concentration camps, standing outside the reach of the German justice authorities, had always been places where the SS could kill prisoners.

Treatment in concentration camps, even when they first opened, was extremely brutal. I hope these detention centers are shutdown before prison guards can tap into their base natures. The fact that media attention is focused on this to such an extent also differentiates it significantly from Germany in the 1930s.

Quote

06-23-2018 , 12:13 PM

#46212

SiMor29

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 4,985

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heroball

Mate there have already been stories of kids handcuffed naked and held in isolation, being forcibly administered cocktails of drugs. The media focus is a product of the era more than anything else.

Quote

06-23-2018 , 12:17 PM

#46213

Heroball

temp-banned

Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 9,402

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiMor29

Mate there have already been stories of kids handcuffed naked and held in isolation, being forcibly administered cocktails of drugs. The media focus is a product of the era more than anything else.

The availability of legal redress also a huge difference:

Quote:

The lawsuit in which the allegations are contained was filed against Shenandoah and alleges that young Latino immigrants held there "are subjected to unconstitutional conditions that shock the conscience, including violence by staff, abusive and excessive use of seclusion and restraints, and the denial of necessary mental health care."

Quote

06-23-2018 , 12:47 PM

#46214

MrWookie

Don't Call Me Meredith

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 94,159

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heroball

The availability of legal redress also a huge difference:

A lawsuit has been filed, yes. It's not a lock that the judiciary will stop this, or that the Trump administration will abide by a court order. And Congress has shown zero interest in reining in the executive branch no matter how flagrant its violations.

Quote

06-23-2018 , 01:12 PM

#46215

Heroball

temp-banned

Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 9,402

Judiciary has definitely slapped Trump/Miller down hard in a few different areas. The travel ban immediately comes to mind.

Quote

06-23-2018 , 05:22 PM

#46216

MrWookie

Don't Call Me Meredith

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 94,159

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heroball

Judiciary has definitely slapped Trump/Miller down hard in a few different areas. The travel ban immediately comes to mind.

SCOTUS seems decently likely to let that stand indefinitely, even if the lower courts didn't agree.

Quote

06-23-2018 , 05:35 PM

#46217

MrWookie

Don't Call Me Meredith

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 94,159

Not to mention that McConnell completely blocked Obama's authority to appoint judges so that Trump can fill all those vacancies now. The Republican position on courts is that only Republicans get to appoint judges, and judges will only be nominated if they rubberstamp the Republican agenda.

Quote

06-23-2018 , 06:36 PM

#46218

dth123451

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 15,502

While Democrats strenuously object

Quote

06-23-2018 , 08:26 PM

#46219

72off

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 67,827

unfortunately i consumed all my popcorn during all these others teases that never came to anything in a timely manner

Quote

06-23-2018 , 08:45 PM

#46220

72off

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 67,827

and this woman in San Francisco, who called the cops on some (obv) non-white kids selling bottled water on a hot day, being in the business of illegally selling weed 4 dogz ... i mean wow, skip the waiting period and immediately enter the self-owned racist HOF, lady

take a bow, that's impressive

Quote:

told HuffPost she acted out of stress, feels horrible, but also feels "discriminated against."

"Please don't make me sound horrible," she added.

lololol