Violence is often the answer.

I mean, when you refer to racism as a ‘different ideology’ nothing you say is really worth discussing seriously

Disgusting. I want to point out one of the roots of the problem here:

These insane sentences are the reason these kids got into a shootout with police. If you're going to do 35 years for robbery, you're already all-in.

You are a liar. You have consistently lied since posting here. Stop lying.

Is there really much difference between a kid calling another kid the N-word in a schoolyard fight, and a fascist breaking Jewish merchants’ windows and painting Swastikas on their doors?

It’s terrorism.

I doubt they would have gotten the book tossed at them if they hadn't got into a shootout, and even if they would have, highly doubt that they're doing the EV calculations to figure out the break even percentages needed to get away with it. If they were, probably wouldn't be committing armed robbery in the first place.

Man it’s black kids in Alabama and the prosecutor was gleeful at the consecutive term sentencing as an adult. Thinking they are EVER getting the benefit of the doubt seems crazy to me.

lol Hoagie, what a brutal series of posts

I don't understand how this works:

So he's charged with murder because he's...liable for the behavior of his friend who got killed? What?

Nuke Alabama from orbit, putting a 15 year old kid in jail until he's 70 is abhorrent

Right. He was liable for murder but the cop did nothing wrong

Murder btw. Not like manslaughter.

That's what makes no sense to me, like, for him to be an accomplice to murder wouldn't...a murder...have to have been committed? I feel like I'm missing something about this law, it can't possibly be this stupid

Felony Murder law is generally “someone dies during commission of a felony”

Accessory murder is pretty standard. You see it all the time where, for example, two guys rob a liquor store and one of them kills the clerk, they both get charged with murder. It seems here one of the guys opened fire on the cops, they shot and killed him in self defense. Seems like it's a clear case of self defense, no one seems to be disputing that, but they're charging everyone with accessory murder because someone was killed as a direct result of a felony they all took part in, just happens to be one of them. It seems like the age is the biggest thing here, apparently there were others who also pled guilty to the same charge but were all adults

Yeah, charging the robbery accomplice with felony murder isn't an Alabama thing, it's an America thing.

Moved to Atlanta. Go ahead. Also you may want to check the analytics on that because I’m pretty sure 15 plus 65 equals 80.

terrific

gawker sized judgement please

Felony murder laws super standard. and super awful.

one of those bs "its a detternet" argument laws, because people think about well what if the cop hits someone in a car chase while blindly rage induced chasing me down after i knock over the seven eleven with my hand in my pocket pretending to be a gun..

or what if a cop shoots a security guard mistakenly at a bank robbery, and i get charged with murder because reasons.

I think felony murder is limited to violent felonies.

Still terrible obviously.

This thing just keeps getting weirder.



(It's Johnny Damon.)

im not sure what post this is referring to but it depends on state obviously. for instance the law in the jurisdiction where i practice is the following:

A person also commits the crime of murder in the first degree, regardless of malice, when that person or any other person takes the life of a human being during, or if the death of a human being results from, the commission or attempted commission of murder, shooting or discharge of a firearm w/ intent, intentional discharge of firearm,...... robbery with dangerous weapon, kidnapping, escape from custody, eluding an officer, burglary, ... unlawful distribution of a controlled substance, manufacturing a controlled substance.

lot of non violent offenses there.. plus a second DUI would also qualify you for felony murder (right or wrong whatever, but a cop trying to catch up to you after he sees you swerving and he hits a pedestrian.. murder 1)


eta- accidental meth lab explosions will trigger felony murder for whoever survives in this jurisdiction and there are A LOT of meth labs here.

Nah...think more Tom Brady because Stormygate ldo.

His getting sued for defamation is wayyyyy overdue