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I mean, how hard is it to say "that guy ****ed up, it's one dumb guy in our massive company, we're sending him to counseling and donating some money to charity xyz?"

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04-15-2018 , 06:51 PM

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StoppedRainingMen

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God damn his lights got turned out

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04-15-2018 , 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by manbearpuig

Why didn't the employee just tell them "buy something or leave/wait outside"? Happens hundreds of times a day in restaurants. Just say something and they would have probably bought a coffee, why call the cops?

Maybe that was said but it doesn't matter. Starbucks is not like other restaurants and they're known for people hanging out there to use the WiFi or meetings without buying anything. If this happened at most any other business or restaurant this is a nonstory. Unless there's some audio/visual evidence to prove they were being lowlifes those guys are gonna get paid and deserve every penny they get.

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04-15-2018 , 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Palo

Yeah, IANAL and I don't know what the relevant laws are but if these two dudes lawyer up, I'm sure their attorneys can find dozens of people who went to that exact starbucks and sat there for hours without buying anything and even got a bathroom code.

FFS, there were a couple of such people there at the exact same. What defense could Starbucks possibly have? Especially since at this point there is no evidence of those dudes doing anything other than sitting there.

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04-15-2018 , 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by pwnsall

Sounds like "Starbucks" and police acted fine.

You still think that "Starbucks" is acting fine after this:

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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty

Just saw that incredibly the regional Starbucks manager today said the employee did nothing wrong. If I was a regional manager I’d sure have read my CEO’s statement before saying something like that.

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04-15-2018 , 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Heroball

Absolutely incredible.

I’m usually an advocate of the whole sticks and stones may break my bones ethos, but in this case reacting violently up to and including killing (not just whoever said the word but any spectators who laughed) should be an affirmative defense.

Amazing the insidious degree to which white culture has infected the “justice” system and cast a pall over notions of common decency and respect for our fellow human beings.

I’ll go with this

If you’re going to call a black person the n word you deserve absolutely everything that comes to you in response. And I say that knowing this kid might have been paralyzed or worse. And if that happened, good

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04-15-2018 , 08:58 PM

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Also remember Starbucks’ moronic race together campaign a couple years back where they wanted baristas to spark up conversations about equality?

Good times

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04-15-2018 , 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen

I’ll go with this

If you’re going to call a black person the n word you deserve absolutely everything that comes to you in response.

I think this is a little too extreme for me, while I agree with the general sentiment. I'd probably have to look at each instance on a case by case basis.

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And I say that knowing this kid might have been paralyzed or worse. And if that happened, good

In this case, I just don't have enough yet to say one way or another, but if all the twitter comments regarding the lead up to the fight (which aren't in any of the news reports) are accurate, then I certainly wouldn't go after the kid they way they are now.

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04-15-2018 , 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dth123451

I mean, how hard is it to say "that guy ****ed up, it's one dumb guy in our massive company, we're sending him to counseling and donating some money to charity xyz?"

In the immortal words of Al Sharpton, "'Sensitivity training'?!?!? They shoved a broom handle up a man's rectum! Ain't no sensitivity training gonna' fix that--you just need to get rid of the psychos on the NYPD!"

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04-15-2018 , 09:32 PM

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Seeing as white people can apparently shoot black people for any reason, imagined or not, im ok with a black kid knocking a racist POS the **** out.

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04-15-2018 , 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Melkerson

The only defense I can think of which makes sense considering upper management for now at least is backing up their employee is that one or both of these guys had already been banned from the location for a documented reason. If that is the case then the cops getting called despite these guys doing nothing is standard. That documented reason better be really legit though.

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04-15-2018 , 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Melkerson

I think this is a little too extreme for me, while I agree with the general sentiment. I'd probably have to look at each instance on a case by case basis.

In this case, I just don't have enough yet to say one way or another, but if all the twitter comments regarding the lead up to the fight (which aren't in any of the news reports) are accurate, then I certainly wouldn't go after the kid they way they are now.

Meh. Every time I’ve been called sandn—- or some equivalent the only thing stopping me from getting violent is knowing I may go to jail for it. I have no problem at all with a racist thinking he can be racist with impunity being baptized with fists

And if the racist is paralyzed or killed, well, one less racist in the world, big loss

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04-15-2018 , 10:20 PM

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I wanna like Comey but man what an idiot

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04-15-2018 , 10:38 PM

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Pee tape real.

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04-15-2018 , 10:38 PM

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Comey is a standard POS GOP slappy who is only remotely sympathetic because Trump. **** him

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04-15-2018 , 10:44 PM

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Hot take: I like Comey and think he is really smart, articulate, and ethical

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04-15-2018 , 10:47 PM

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He's been great except for the whole swinging the election and the course of history thing

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04-15-2018 , 10:47 PM

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Yeah, just infuriating to watch. Dude's gonna' be like McNamara and publicly rebuke himself in 30 years and people will be like, "Wait--he never realized that?".

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04-15-2018 , 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen

I'm with you, but I'm sure I could construct some sort of weird edge cases where I wouldn't be OK with it. I'm sure I'd be fine with it at least 95% of the time. Probably more than that.

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04-15-2018 , 10:54 PM

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He doesn't have to be either a hero or a villain. The Clinton thing was stupid but I have done things in my life that were on a similar level of stupid, his was just a lot more consequential. One decision doesn't define a person just because it helped get Trump elected. I mean also helping to get Trump elected was everyone who decided it would be a good idea to run HilWOAT as a candidate. As far as figures in American political life go, Comey is easily in the top 50%, which is more an indictment of the quality of public figures than anything.

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04-15-2018 , 11:14 PM

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I would be ok with that take if his media tour was "sorry America, I really ****ed up, please forgive me." **** him

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04-15-2018 , 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisV

Also easily in the top 3% I want to punch in the face.

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04-15-2018 , 11:23 PM

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Yeah great, maybe people in positions to fundamentally affect elections shouldn't **** up to that degree.

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04-15-2018 , 11:58 PM

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Man, **** Starbucks. Remember when they were actively trying to block Ethiopia from trademarking their own ****ing coffee beans? They're a modern-day F.W. Woolworth at this point.

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