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03-23-2018 , 10:54 AM
not really sure fly got the best of him there.

regardless, dont remember sharko posting anything about policy or of substance. the anti-neocon, hillarys a hawk, donald is the dove was none other than

Spoiler:
variance minefield
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03-23-2018 , 10:59 AM
Shark posted something about “international labor arbitrage” and “re-aligning the GOP” with white America or something. That was as close as he ever came to earnestly revealing his deplorableness I think.
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03-23-2018 , 11:23 AM
Simulation writers are getting lazy

http://wnep.com/2018/03/22/superinte...hool-shooting/

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“Every classroom has been equipped with a five-gallon bucket of river stone. If an armed intruder attempts to gain entrance into any of our classrooms, they will face a classroom full students armed with rocks and they will be stoned,” said Dr. David Helsel.
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03-23-2018 , 12:19 PM
My absolute favorite line is from that is

"It's absurd,

Spoiler:
arm the teachers"
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03-24-2018 , 12:45 PM

https://twitter.com/annkillion/statu...83952339726336
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03-24-2018 , 12:52 PM
These kids are awesome. I really hope they keep it up. Will be the ultimate proof that everything is hopeless if they slowly morph into empty suits.
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03-24-2018 , 12:52 PM
Black twitter is quite supportive of the March today but also quite pissed about the difference in media coverage this gets as opposed to massive nationwide protests against police violence, where the police even committed more violence against them right in front of the media.

Pretty fair observation
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03-24-2018 , 01:28 PM
To quote a lyric from a classic Punk Rock song..."If the kids are united, then we'll never be divided..."

Seeing these kids speak so passionately and thoughtfully today gives me hope that they will be change we so desperately need.
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03-24-2018 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty
Black twitter is quite supportive of the March today but also quite pissed about the difference in media coverage this gets as opposed to massive nationwide protests against police violence, where the police even committed more violence against them right in front of the media.

Pretty fair observation
Fair observation and also misguided. Just as we all should have been and still should be supportive of the BLM movement (I was and still am), we should be supportive of this movement. Trying to divide these movements and seek to amplify differences plays into the right wing agenda of driving wedges into liberal progressive movements.

Think about what you're actually saying here, you're criticizing the media for giving attention to a progressive movement because they haven't given the same attention to every other progressive movement. This is textbook the type of arguments that those who seek to divide us bring up to slow down movements that actually have momentum behind them. These are the type of arguments that the Russian troll army thrives on, same as Bernie bros for Trump and Jill Stein supporters contributed to our current problems.

Stop letting perfect be the enemy of the good and turning a clear W into an L based on some perception of being ideologically impure.
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03-24-2018 , 05:01 PM
Local AM radio this morning.

Host: I'm going to get a cup of coffee and maybe today's newspaper because I know I'm going to give you this topic and you're just going to blow. Stormy Daniels, go.

Guest: Oh. My. Goodness. This is just a perfect example of how the liberal media has shifted the goalposts now that a conservative is in office. Did you see how they were all going on about how Trump congratulated Putin? Not a word about the fact that Obama did the exact same thing.
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03-24-2018 , 05:54 PM
MEB,

I think you’re either misunderstanding or looking at it wrong.

The tone is “this is great, but let’s be sure and hold the media to this standard of overt support the next time it’s a bunch of black women and kids leading a movement against an equally (more?) reprehensible lack of government action. “

That doesn’t st all say the media shouldn’t be covering this the way they are. It’s merely noting how the support (media, celebrity, popular and otherwise) is dramatically different for reasons that are obvious.

Given that it’s a constant battle to even convince huge chunks of white America that racism even exists, it’s absolutely appropriate and timely and fair to make the point. Just as it’s fair to point out that white mass *murderers* get empathetic soft nice understanding writeups (and Burger King!) while black *victims* of unnecessary police violence get instantly and aggressively defamed.
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03-24-2018 , 06:15 PM
Local radio here talked to some black kids about every day gun violence, it was pretty good. Kinda wished the black kids were more aggro about the ridiculousness. Actually not sure it was local.

Not sure of black communities stance on guns in general.
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03-24-2018 , 06:49 PM
There are a lot of anti gun and anti gang protests here in Chicago, though smaller.

I'm happy the DC March incorporated black gun violence victims. Around here at least, black kids get shot much more than white kids.
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03-24-2018 , 07:12 PM
Clark turning into a terrible politics poster is something I never saw coming.

The media kind of sucks, so...?????

I guess I should have seen it coming from "Maddow is 60% as bad as Hannity," but JFC dude.
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03-24-2018 , 07:38 PM
The kids are great and all, and getting people to vote is ultimately all that matters I guess, but this kinda feels pretty similar to OWS and BLM.
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03-24-2018 , 07:54 PM
I think the difference is that OWS and BLM are ultimately niche movements. OWS just gathered up existing left-wing types and dumped them all in one place, like the Seattle protests back in the day. This protest is an issue with very broad support and it can potentially be an animating force for that whole generation. Not saying it's necessarily going to get anywhere but I think the chances are a lot better than with the others.
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03-24-2018 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
The kids are great and all, and getting people to vote is ultimately all that matters I guess, but this kinda feels pretty similar to OWS and BLM.
Much tougher group to demonize.
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03-24-2018 , 08:14 PM
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Much tougher group to demonize.
True but the POS at the NRA are trying really hard tho...


https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/24/us/nr...rnd/index.html


They just wont ever quit and since they wont back down then neither should the kids.
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03-25-2018 , 01:36 AM
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On Thursday evening, NRA TV posted a clip on its YouTube channel entitled "A march for their lies" where the host addressed the Parkland students and said that if their friends hadn't died, "no one would know your names."
Good people on both sides
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03-25-2018 , 01:47 AM
Yes I know the names of Emma Gonzalez and David Hogg. But I know both of them would snap me not knowing their names in return for the Parkland shooting not happening.
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03-25-2018 , 11:14 AM
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Much tougher group to demonize.
They're trying. There is no bottom. The opposition is awful people, full stop.
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03-25-2018 , 11:28 AM
The most important part of this movement is that it shows young people that participating in politics matters and has a point.

I think back to when I was in middle or high school and the Bush/Gore and Bush/Kerry elections where you could reasonably state that their campaigns were not starkly different. The greater attention we draw to just how awful the gun lobby is, and how much they support Republicans and vice versa, the more young people will realize what a difference their vote actually makes.
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03-25-2018 , 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by dth123451
They're trying. There is no bottom. The opposition is awful people, full stop.
Their attempts look reprehensible to anyone that's not a dyed-in-the-wool gun slappy.
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03-25-2018 , 11:53 AM
Random thought: been thinking about how genuinely unsettling it is how giddy rump is when he talks about the prospect or actuality of bad dudes being killed. Death penalty for drug dealers, immediately taking to twitter as POTUS to demand the death penalty for suspects of various crimes, after parkland when advocating arming teachers saying something to the effect of ‘people need to know if they bring a gun to school they’re going to end up dead’. The all caps celebration of the Austin bomber blowing himself up.

Idk. The fact that there’s no attention paid to this and that his stated definition of bad guys can shift over time seems troubling
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03-25-2018 , 12:00 PM
Random thought that I came up with only after reading that: What would Trump's reaction be if Hillary died? What would the first tweet look like?
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