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02-04-2018 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Pwn_Master
Why would you get upset with people like Warren who you believe are wrong if business and politicians are to be kept separate? She is not a businesswoman, how would you expect her to know better?

Honestly, pretty clear to everyone but yourself that you are babbling non-sense to avoid conceding to super-obvious point that we need EVERYONE to act morally and consider the well-being of others in their decisions for society to work properly.
I don't expect her to know better. But I do expect her to not act on her ignorance. She's paid to do her job well and this wouldn't be doing so. I am expected to speak up if I am asked to do something I'm not capable of and encouraged to avoid acting like I know things I don't at my job. I don't think that's too much to ask of anyone in any career.

I agree we need everyone to act morally, but doing what you are paid to do is moral. If you don't think its moral then you need to quit your job. This applies to CEOs and people like me and you. It would be immoral for you or I to do something to **** over our employer or our clients. The public is the government's client and the government ****s us over continuously.

I think we should legislate morality and then people will be forced to act morally simply by acting within the law.
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02-04-2018 , 07:27 PM
She has done her job correctly. She has noted that those claiming to know better than her are in a position very highly correlated with sociopathy and have an overwhelming tendency to be if not outright liars, severe narcissists who present what is best for themselves as best for everyone. Therefore, she worked from first principles to come up with great ideas like there should be a CFPB to diligently look out for the interests of consumers.
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02-05-2018 , 10:58 AM
The people opposing my view of wanting corporate executives to act in the best interest of their companies are saying things like this:

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Originally Posted by -Insert Witty SN-
Hope Philly burns down with all the trash humans inside
Anyone wanna defend this as a policy view?
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02-05-2018 , 11:07 AM
A city burning down means more JOBS for UNION WORKERS to clean it and rebuild.

Libs love that kinda stuff
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02-05-2018 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
Anyone wanna defend this as a policy view?
first please defend these disgusting posts where you encourage people to kill themselves
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02-05-2018 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by BOIDS
first please defend these disgusting posts where you encourage people to kill themselves
Those aren't good political policy either and I would never argue they are. If any politician argued that specific people should kill themselves it would be unacceptable.

I'm also not claiming to be a good person. I believe that I am a deeply flawed person who has lots of objectionable views and has made tons of disgusting decisions throughout my life just like every single other human on earth. Its the people like IWSN, pwn, fly, etc. who are arguing that they are good people and people like me are bad people. I acknowledge that I hold some harmful views and have taken actions that harm others in the past and am ~100% to do so again and just want them to do the same.
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02-05-2018 , 11:50 AM
uh, u mean u weren't joking in those posts?

cos i assumed u were joking and didn't actually want those ppl to kill themslves
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02-05-2018 , 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by BOIDS
uh, u werent joking in those posts?

cos i assumed u were joking and didn't actually want those ppl to kill themslves
I suspect that I was neither joking nor serious about wanting them to kill themselves. I assume I was MAD though based on the context. No idea what Harbaugh did to prompt that since I have never been a fan of any team coached by a Harbaugh. I assume Boone was throwing a lot of picks or missing wide open WRs in a Duke game though.

That doesn't make my comments ok. I am the first to acknowledge that stuff like that is not acceptable when I say it. It was unacceptable, but what am I supposed to do about it? I said it and can't take it back so I acknowledge my mistake and move on. The fact that I do say things like that on occasion, even without seriously wishing they happen, still makes me a ****ty person. I'm sure I'll say something objectionable about someone again on the future. This will once again reaffirm that I make mistakes.

Every person has some good characteristics and some bad ones, makes some good decisions and some bad ones, says some good things and some bad things, and holds some good views and some bad ones. I'll never claim to be free from these things. I'd just ask that others also acknowledge they make mistakes and also hold harmful views and take actions to harm others throughout their life.
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02-05-2018 , 12:28 PM
Update: A racist reality tv personality is still the President of the United States.
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02-05-2018 , 12:41 PM
I also acknowledge they I mistakes and also hold harmful views and take actions to harm others throughout their life.

As a very obvious example, that I still eat the flesh of other animals when there is no need for me to do so is a shameful disgrace.
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02-05-2018 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
A city burning down means more JOBS for UNION WORKERS to clean it and rebuild.

Libs love that kinda stuff
legit lold

it was a dumb drunken post. i regret many decisions i made last night
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02-05-2018 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
Sure we can condemn them. Most rich people are scumbags too. So are tons of middle class and poor people. Just because they are scumbags doesn't mean they aren't doing what they should from a business perspective though.
DOING WHAT THEY SHOULD FROM A BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE IS WHAT MAKES THEM SCUMBAGS for Christ's sake.

Also, no, I can condemn them. You can't! Like, this whole thread has been an opportunity for you to condemn them and you keep on saying that they are doing what they should do. That's the exact ****ing opposite of condemnation.
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02-05-2018 , 01:19 PM
CDL,

You come across like a 300 pound guy sitting eating pizza who says I genuinely want to run an ironman triathlon. People agree getting fit is a good idea and suggest step one, why not put down the pizza and try walking 1k a day then after a while maybe we can go up to 2k then walk 5k then jog 1k etc. But you say 1k!? That's crazy you don't have the right to tell me to walk 1k and you never should. I'll just stay here eating pizza until I can run the triathlon. Your stated desire is meaningless in the face of your current actions.
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02-05-2018 , 01:34 PM
Running is bad for you, the guy who invented jogging died when he was like 50
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02-05-2018 , 01:40 PM
Pretty sure the guy who invented jogging was eaten by a saber-tooth tiger at 13.
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02-05-2018 , 02:30 PM
Fly what policies would you enact
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02-05-2018 , 04:12 PM
Nice stock market you got there
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02-05-2018 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty
Fly what policies would you enact
Sovereign wealth fund, all income treated the same(capital gains, gift, inheritance, whatever), massive increase in labor protections, nationalized health care, etc.

I don't get the point of the question, though. I'm not running for President, who cares what policies a random ******* can list? Knowing names of policy positions is an extremely low bar for debate.
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02-05-2018 , 08:17 PM
i ask because your entire tack of “these guys are evil” seems pointless without ideas on what to do about it.
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02-05-2018 , 08:22 PM
Its hard enough to get ******s to understand that theyre evil.
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02-05-2018 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
Its hard enough to get ******s to understand that theyre evil.
Gotta say, the switch to wearing jeans rather than those goofy outfits worn by European overlords was a A++++ marketing move.
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02-05-2018 , 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
Nice stock market you got there
Donny D. Drumpf just having fun out there, smashing records left & right
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02-05-2018 , 08:52 PM
Yep. Not anything close to resembling authoritarianism or anything... Just suggesting that not clapping for the Dear Leader is equivalent to Treason.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/whi...action-n844851
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02-05-2018 , 08:59 PM
Trump apologist flowchart:

He didn't do/say that > OK he did but it was a joke > OK it wasn't a joke but look how mad the libs are = Its not bad that he did/said that
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