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So, the republican message here was that

Democrats would rather protect illegals (a lie, dreamers are here legally under DACA and were brought here as children) than fund the military (a lie, McCaskill proposed funding the military and Turtle objected) or insure poor kids (a lie, republicans have blocked CHIP funding for months over daily calls from Democrats to fund the program)l

The republican base clearly just believes all the lies, and counter-evidence only makes them dig in. In general, the dems can't seem to get the voters to punish all the lying.

How do you combat an political opponent who will just shamelessly lie about whatever is happening?

"Get absolutely wrecked in a huge, stupid war" is the most common way out, no?

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01-22-2018 , 09:13 PM

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ut2010

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50% of American men fistpumped after watching this Trump ad (not racist!):

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01-22-2018 , 10:15 PM

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BDHarrison

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Originally Posted by goofball

I would rather protect illegals than fund the military.

Since the voters won't punish lying Republicans, Democrats should make plans for retribution and look for ways to punish voters who don't punish lying Republicans. Republicans have continually targeted Democratic constituencies. Democrats should adopt a "tit for tat" mentality.

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01-23-2018 , 04:42 AM

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ClarkNasty

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Schumer is so incompetent. Where is Harry?

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01-23-2018 , 09:03 AM

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bazooka87

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During bipartisan talks between senators to discuss passing a funding bill to end the government shutdown, Sen. Susan Collins whose office was being used for the negotiations, figured out a civil way to create discussion.

Collins, R-Maine, introduced her fellow colleagues to using a talking stick during discussions, multiple senators told CNN.

Whoever was holding the stick was the only senator allowed to talk -- to prevent cross-talking.

I look forward to the next negotiations being interrupted by naptime

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01-23-2018 , 09:45 AM

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Perhaps Shimmy

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Lolololo[oooooolllll
Can't wait till trump brings his own blinged out talking stick to meetings so he can talk all the time

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01-23-2018 , 10:17 AM

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Booker Wolfbox

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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty

Schumer is so incompetent. Where is Harry?

Obv working on the next gen Death Star

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01-23-2018 , 11:37 AM

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Biesterfield

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anyone else annoyed by the evolution of Pod Save America/Keeping it 1600? imo it has gone from something enjoyable, informative, and fresh to something that is often borderline unlisten-able

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01-23-2018 , 11:48 AM

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Nwildcat

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Was just thinking that yesterday.. they were coming off as particularly angry/venting rather than lending any real insight.

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01-23-2018 , 12:03 PM

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Yesterday was personal since they were arguably the reason the shutdown happened.

Other than that, I am not quite as interested as I was before but think that is because we are in a dead period where there is not really any clear-cut high-value things we can do right now like an imminent election or opposing major R legislation.

Also, it is natural that they won't feel fresh when they aren't anymore and that their perspectives that were informative before will just be things that are obvious to us now since we have heard them so many times.

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01-23-2018 , 12:19 PM

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Nwildcat

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True that. Think the 538 crew (podcast) usually has a good slew of information that I wouldn't have been exposed to otherwise. Haven't branched out much further other than that

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01-23-2018 , 12:21 PM

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Biesterfield

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yeah was about to say that 538 continues to be excellent

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01-23-2018 , 12:56 PM

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Henrik Sedin

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Originally Posted by Perhaps Shimmy

Who do you guys think will play the russian prosty in the pee tape for the inevitable big-budget Trump biopic?

Stormy, or Ivanka

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01-23-2018 , 01:18 PM

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aoFrantic

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Originally Posted by Biesterfield

anyone else annoyed by the evolution of Pod Save America/Keeping it 1600? imo it has gone from something enjoyable, informative, and fresh to something that is often borderline unlisten-able

Liked them when they were still on the ringer now chapo is 10000x better.

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01-23-2018 , 04:25 PM

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TJ Eckleburg12

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Another high school shooting, this time Marshall County, Kentucky.

Only 2 dead and 17 injured, yawn.

15-year old shooter was apprehended alive

Name hasn't been released but I'm presuming it's a white kid

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01-23-2018 , 04:26 PM

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Slighted

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NFL rejected a #PleaseStand ad campaign that a vet lobbying group wanted to put in the printed programs. NFL counter with "please honor our veterans" type language but the lobbying firm refused. If you want to see true derangement pop over to fox news facebook story of it. quite the interesting comment section.

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01-23-2018 , 04:46 PM

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Heroball

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Originally Posted by dth123451

"We'll get 'em next time."

- Democrats, my entire adult life

Patience is a virtue.

But seriously I trust Schumer is playing some 14d chess and will be able to outwit Mitch.

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01-23-2018 , 05:03 PM

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stinkubus

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It doesn't even matter if Schumer can outwit Mitch. Without a veto proof majority in both chambers nothing is getting done on DACA.

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01-23-2018 , 05:27 PM

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dth123451

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On what basis does anyone assume Chuck knows what he's doing?

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01-23-2018 , 05:34 PM

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anyone else annoyed by the evolution of Pod Save America/Keeping it 1600? imo it has gone from something enjoyable, informative, and fresh to something that is often borderline unlisten-able

Jason Kander has a new-ish podcast (2 months old?) called Majority 54 through Crooked Media that's worth listening to, this guy seriously needs to be president someday

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01-23-2018 , 08:23 PM

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Haven't checked that one out, honestly because I thought PSA is too rah-rah-go-dems (even though I listen to every episode), but will now go check out their other pods in spite of my boredom with PSA. Thanks

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01-23-2018 , 09:16 PM

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ut2010

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01-23-2018 , 10:02 PM

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TimmayB

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“George Orwell, 1984...liberals are the poor bastards in that book”

Was a thing I saw said recently. Is it possible to misunderstand anything more than this man misunderstood 1984?

Not often do I get got by stupidity but I’ve been whiteguyblinking.gif for like 10 minutes.