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is there no one in america with progressive values, a strong grasp of history/economics/law + the ability to make a speech without falling over themselves

electing people that have to make it up as they go = no good

lots of people

but none of them want the ****show that comes with it

i saw we just appoint bezos benevolent dictator for the last gasp of the republic. it was going to happen anyway lets just speed up the process.

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01-09-2018 , 11:24 AM

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Greg Popovich

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01-09-2018 , 11:25 AM

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'did you know Trump is bad tho'

great job guys, now i'll be sure to line up to vote for a president who promotes anti-vax and believes in The Secret.

this last couple of years really has given you all terminal brain disease hasn't it.

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01-09-2018 , 11:25 AM

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is there no one in america with progressive values, a strong grasp of history/economics/law + the ability to make a speech without falling over themselves

There's really not. Bernie is 90 years old and Warren has no charisma at all. Booker is a total corrupt fraud. Biden is 80 and a coward.

I'm all ears for a better candidate than OPE. Don't see one currently.

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01-09-2018 , 11:26 AM

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Who would you like to see run? You continue to dodge this question.

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01-09-2018 , 11:26 AM

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electing people that have to make it up as they go = no good

This is true, but locking up the win for the non-deplorables at this point >>> anything

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01-09-2018 , 11:31 AM

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01-09-2018 , 11:32 AM

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A SPECIAL WOMAN

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01-09-2018 , 11:32 AM

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Who would you like to see run? You continue to dodge this question.

given that most Dems suck total balls and whoever it is will be massively flawed, I would take literally any Democrat who is unambiguously pro M4A and will run on it. so anyone who cosponsored the Sanders bill.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...n-support.html

i think a meh candidate like Booker + M4A >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a billionaire celebrity who thinks you should solve your problems with the power of positive thinking

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01-09-2018 , 11:34 AM

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i know the idea of supporting actual policies that do good things to help people must seem completely alien to everyone in this thread, but maybe consider it?

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01-09-2018 , 11:35 AM

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A meh candidate like Booker wont win though. Electability is kind of important. If you dont have someone in mind who can win its a nonstarter.

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01-09-2018 , 11:35 AM

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100% chance of winning with Oprah > 70% chance of winning with the unicorn perfect candidate

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01-09-2018 , 11:36 AM

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And the reality is it’s Oprah 90% anyone else 57%

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01-09-2018 , 11:39 AM

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ok cool, so it's 'oprah has to run because all the real candidates will lose, because i say so'?

because there's literally no way a human being who can speak in full sentences and embraces a popular platform of good ideas that help people could beat the historically unpopular moron.

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01-09-2018 , 11:40 AM

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Trump is the WOAT President but will still be an amazing campaigner and entertainer when the time comes. If Democrats again take a win for granted and send trash like Booker up there then as the saying goes "fool me once shame on...shame on you....fool me....you cant get fooled again"

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01-09-2018 , 11:41 AM

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because there's literally no way a human being who can speak in full sentences and embraces a popular platform of good ideas that help people could beat the historically unpopular moron.

Youve still yet to identify this person. When you you im all for them.

Trump will slaughter Booker or Warren in a campaign.

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01-09-2018 , 11:48 AM

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i know the idea of supporting actual policies that do good things to help people must seem completely alien to everyone in this thread, but maybe consider it?

Obviously nobody here wants that

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01-09-2018 , 11:50 AM

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you asked 'who would you want to run instead of my beloved President Oprah?' and i gave you a list of 16 names who support M4A because i think actual policies are important, and people care about not dying of cancer or being in hundreds of thousands of dollars of medical debt, and will vote for it.

if all you have to say is 'all those people will lose because i say so, so we must elect President Oprah', then great, have fun

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01-09-2018 , 11:52 AM

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Im not saying we must elect Oprah. I couldnt care less about Oprah. But winning is a must and she is literally a lock to win.

"Heres a list of 16 people who voted for something" is not a valid answer to "who is a better candidate?"

The fact that you cant differentiate anyone from that list is exactly why the list is trash.

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01-09-2018 , 12:01 PM

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i mean everything you're arguing is based on two completely unsupported premises you've decided are true:

1. oprah will definitely win
2. any regular dem will definitely lose

i agree that in these specific circumstances oprah running for president is a good idea. but neither is true, so it actually isn't.

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01-09-2018 , 12:12 PM

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fella you're arguing with someone who spent most of 2016 shouting variants of BUT HUR EMALZZZZZ, punctuated by arguments in favour of the extermination of the homeless

wasting your time

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01-09-2018 , 12:12 PM

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And the reality is it’s Oprah 90% anyone else 57%

Yeah but a competent candidate will be 10x better for USA than oprah

EV(Oprah runs)= (90% Oprah win)(100 good for the country)+(10% Trump win)(-500 good for the country)= 40 good for the country

EV(Normal candidate)= (57% win)(1000 good for the country) + (43%Trump win)(-500 good for the country)= 355 good for the country

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01-09-2018 , 12:14 PM

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a replacement level democrat like Tim Kaine would be a yuge favorite against Trump in 2020. Someone like Kaine also probably would have won against Trump in 2016. The idiot democrats instead nominated historically unpopular Hilldawg.

So yeah I mean Oprah might beat Trump in 2020. She probably would. But so would literally anyone. I mean even Hilldawg might beat Trump. The moron democrats might try it, who knows.

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01-09-2018 , 12:16 PM

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I am operating under the assumption that other than Bernie, Oprah is the most dependable candidate to lock the special interests out. Like the opposite of what Trump has done. I attach a ton of value to this.

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01-09-2018 , 12:17 PM

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Kafja's gone into standard dem voter logical fallacies, "I can't vote for so and so because they're not perfect" vs someone that is less in favor of what you want. R voters don't have that problem.

The evidence has already been stated in the thread btw and you've provided none to counter.

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