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12-28-2017 , 03:45 PM
Victor is right. Literally all that matters right now is someones political beliefs and anyone who says **** like "I dont want to hear about politics I just want to watch/discuss sports" is officially part of the problem.
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12-28-2017 , 04:09 PM
tuq is right, just nuke it. America is a 2 party system. How the hell are you supposed to discuss politics when supporting the Republican party is considered a violation of site rules for hate speech?
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12-28-2017 , 04:12 PM
mbp, you've been banned for reasons other than "supporting the republican party." Want to go over those reasons or will you just straight up lie again?
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12-28-2017 , 04:22 PM
To be blunt, how the hell, exactly, are you still a Republican when the party line positions of the Republican Party violate decency standards applicable to a website you love so much that you choose to practice free expression on it even where your opinions are not respected?

Why is the reflection this causes aimed outward at the problem with not "accepting" Republicans instead of inward at the problem that you support those vile positions?
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12-28-2017 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
mbp, you've been banned for reasons other than "supporting the republican party." Want to go over those reasons or will you just straight up lie again?
Way to dodge the question just like liberals always do. I see you are confused. Reading comprehension is so hard. I will ask again. Is supporting the GOP considered hate speech on this forum? Simple question
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12-28-2017 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
To be blunt, how the hell, exactly, are you still a Republican when the party line positions of the Republican Party violate decency standards applicable to a website you love so much that you choose to practice free expression on it even where your opinions are not respected
Forget it question has been answered. At least thanks for the honesty.
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12-28-2017 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by manbearpuig
Way to dodge the question just like liberals always do. I see you are confused. Reading comprehension is so hard. I will ask again. Is supporting the GOP considered hate speech on this forum? Simple question
No. But bigotry condoned by the Republican Party against homosexuals, minorities, trans people, immigrants, women, and any other group of hate targets you might choose to slander and debase on any given day does violate site rules whether it is now a standard Republican position or condoned by the Republican Party or not.

Similarly, trolling with moronic talking points and "evidence" supporting Republican Party talking points - i.e. pizzagate, Roy Moore's lawsuit to prevent his loss in Alabama, voter fraud without any evidence of voter fraud, homosexuals cannot raise healthy children, etc. - is against site rules and against the BAD POSTING RULE whether the Republican Party condones or in fact encourages those same talking points or not.

Put differently, the Republican Party being a convenient source from which you can claim to take your "mainstream" position does not turn those bigoted positions not-bigoted. The rules still apply.
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12-28-2017 , 04:35 PM
Put differently, for example, Roy Moore would not be able to post here for very long. Paul Ryan probably would last a while, until it was finally necessary to get rid of him because his economic posting would continually be disingenuous and wrong about ~ everything, and dominate discussion of everything else. Or he might post something about "family values" and blow himself up that way.

And on and on.
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12-28-2017 , 04:37 PM
to use simpler words than the ones hoya uses:

Being a Republican for any reason other than personal financial gain, which is explainable though not necessarily justifiable, is despicable. Their views on every single social issue are abhorrent and have no place in a civilized society anywhere. If you support the Republican party because it helps you financially and are not in turn using your social and financial positions to change the world positively more than the Republican party is negatively affecting it then you are indeed part of the problem.

Every side is not created equally and holding a different view on things does not mean that view should carry equal weight. Some views are actually better or more correct than others. The views of the Republican Party are the views of horrible people who ACTIVELY seek to harm others. By supporting this you are making a choice to harm others, in many cases without any tangible benefit to yourself.
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12-28-2017 , 04:39 PM
Well there is that sweet, sweet hit of dopamine these people get when they imagine some undocumented family being torn apart ICE agents.
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12-28-2017 , 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by manbearpuig
How the hell are you supposed to discuss politics when supporting the Republican party is considered a violation of site rules for hate speech?
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Originally Posted by manbearpuig
Way to dodge the question just like liberals always do. I see you are confused. Reading comprehension is so hard. I will ask again. Is supporting the GOP considered hate speech on this forum? Simple question
Those are two different questions. Reading comprehension is so hard.
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12-28-2017 , 04:52 PM
It should also be noted that many people gave very detailed, honest responses to mbp. This was very nice of them, but he never discusses policy. He is not interested in policy. He does not support the GOP for policy, and it was very good of CDL and others to differentiate between supporting the GOP for say, financial gain and just posting online to make liberals mad. MBP just does the latter.
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12-28-2017 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
to use simpler words than the ones hoya uses:

Being a Republican for any reason other than personal financial gain, which is explainable though not necessarily justifiable, is despicable. Their views on every single social issue are abhorrent and have no place in a civilized society anywhere. If you support the Republican party because it helps you financially and are not in turn using your social and financial positions to change the world positively more than the Republican party is negatively affecting it then you are indeed part of the problem.

Every side is not created equally and holding a different view on things does not mean that view should carry equal weight. Some views are actually better or more correct than others. The views of the Republican Party https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/4...-a-1699660/are the views of horrible people who ACTIVELY seek to harm others. By supporting this you are making a choice to harm others, in many cases without any tangible benefit to yourself.
Alot of voters vote based on 1 personal issue. I know a guy who loves guns, doesn't care for minorities or gays and is a huge fan of Limbaugh, but votes straight D because he's a union big shot and the D's are friendlier with the unions. A woman I know also supports about every GOP position but votes all D because her son has a bone disease(pre existing condition). Flip side a guy I know voted Obama twice and loved to talk about his greatness. Until his daughter was hit by an illegal who was drunk, didn't kill her but broke her hip and had to have multiple knee surgeries and they didn't deport the driver. Now he's full blown Trump train. Alot of people vote one way or another out of self interest.
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12-28-2017 , 05:25 PM
Hahahahaha
Gives two examples of someone voting D in their own self interest
Then gives example of guy supporting Trump because illegals
Hint: only 2 of those 3 examples involve people voting in their self interest, and they have something in common
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12-28-2017 , 05:28 PM
Funny how the people who are getting habitually teabagged want the thread shut down rather than confront why it is they're so easily able to be teabagged.
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12-28-2017 , 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by manbearpuig
Alot of voters vote based on 1 personal issue. I know a guy who loves guns, doesn't care for minorities or gays and is a huge fan of Limbaugh, but votes straight D because he's a union big shot and the D's are friendlier with the unions. A woman I know also supports about every GOP position but votes all D because her son has a bone disease(pre existing condition). Flip side a guy I know voted Obama twice and loved to talk about his greatness. Until his daughter was hit by an illegal who was drunk, didn't kill her but broke her hip and had to have multiple knee surgeries and they didn't deport the driver. Now he's full blown Trump train. Alot of people vote one way or another out of self interest.
Serious question; are any of these people real?
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12-28-2017 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by manbearpuig
Alot of voters vote based on 1 personal issue. I know a guy who loves guns, doesn't care for minorities or gays and is a huge fan of Limbaugh, but votes straight D because he's a union big shot and the D's are friendlier with the unions. A woman I know also supports about every GOP position but votes all D because her son has a bone disease(pre existing condition). Flip side a guy I know voted Obama twice and loved to talk about his greatness. Until his daughter was hit by an illegal who was drunk, didn't kill her but broke her hip and had to have multiple knee surgeries and they didn't deport the driver. Now he's full blown Trump train. Alot of people vote one way or another out of self interest.
This is self ownage unlike anything Ive ever seen.
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12-28-2017 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Holliday
Serious question; are any of these people real?
Highly unlikely, but I hope so.
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12-28-2017 , 05:48 PM
This horrible discussion reminds me of one of the things that tilts me the most about news media currently.

The trumpers complain that the majority of the coverage of them and their policies is negative and that it should be equally positive and negative. As if there are no policies or statements that are objectively false or horrible. It's really unfair that there isn't neutral overall coverage of your revolutionary policy to kill the poor and wear their skin as coats.
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12-28-2017 , 05:53 PM
I think there is blame on both sides. You have some pretty bad dudes on the other side also.
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12-28-2017 , 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by manbearpuig
How the hell are you supposed to discuss politics when supporting the Republican party is considered a violation of site rules for hate speech?
Why do you support the Republican party?
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12-28-2017 , 06:33 PM
tuq: this is a containment thread


hope this helps
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12-28-2017 , 06:50 PM
Why you shouldn't try to silence the right on social issues provided they can calm down their bigotry for a minute. Let them say insane things and let the younger generation realize what's up.
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12-28-2017 , 06:56 PM
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Highly unlikely, but I hope so.
Its probably true....if for nothing else this election and this past year has taught us is that people are that stupid.
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12-28-2017 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ut2010
Why you shouldn't try to silence the right on social issues provided they can calm down their bigotry for a minute. Let them say insane things and let the younger generation realize what's up.

Disagree. These people need to be shut up. They need to be ostracized. They need to sometimes be physicslly assaulted. Theyre an enemy to humanity. Theyre the opposing side of an impending civil war. Theyre not just going to fade away.
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